"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Not sure what to do..Opinions?

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fill you up with a background story.. so ive been talkin to this girl lately who i might add is very very hot.. we've gone out and we made out and everything was good. She's a very "everything goes my way" type a girl though.. i find it kinda cool but at times it is annoying... on to the point... we were txting around 10:45.. and i had said "haha ok.. ima crash already cuz i still got my dum headache and its annoying me..." she replied with "Fine ******* bye" me: "Lol nightnight" her: "Its not funny don't even think of texting me tomorow!" me:......nightnight" i didnt really know wut to say at that point and thats all i could think off.. she is very hot i do not wanta next her cuz most girls at our school are jus decent and she goes to a diff hs same city though... she told me that last night and so far i havnt talked to her today.. and she hasnt txted me... my thoughts are dont text her cuz then she's gonna think she has complete control... but then again wut if i do txt her? so as you can see im kinda confused on wut to do... OPINIONS PLEASE??
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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idk i doubt it..i told her i had got a headache cuz i had tons of homework and i said my headache was annoying me so i wanted to go to sleep... shes done stuff similar to this before though... for example i was golfin and i said i wanted to finish but she was mad cuz i was taking to long to text.. eventually she got over it though... she always gets mad at simple stuff which does suck but still i dont wanta jus drop her...
 

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JerryFl08 said:
fill you up with a background story.. so ive been talkin to this girl lately who i might add is very very hot.. we've gone out and we made out and everything was good. She's a very "everything goes my way" type a girl though.. i find it kinda cool but at times it is annoying... on to the point... we were txting around 10:45.. and i had said "haha ok.. ima crash already cuz i still got my dum headache and its annoying me..." she replied with "Fine ******* bye" me: "Lol nightnight" her: "Its not funny don't even think of texting me tomorow!" me:......nightnight" i didnt really know wut to say at that point and thats all i could think off.. she is very hot i do not wanta next her cuz most girls at our school are jus decent and she goes to a diff hs same city though... she told me that last night and so far i havnt talked to her today.. and she hasnt txted me... my thoughts are dont text her cuz then she's gonna think she has complete control... but then again wut if i do txt her? so as you can see im kinda confused on wut to do... OPINIONS PLEASE??
You don't want to text first because then she'll think she'll have "complete control"? What the heck does that mean? Do you want to be with her and have sex with her or prove that no girl can outwit you? Man this site has brainwashed people...

Call her and say: "I apologize for last night, I really did have a headache which is why I may have sounded abrupt. Do you have time for ice cream after class? I know this great place around corner."

Don't make an issue out of it. The longer you wait to respond, the more of an issue it becomes.
 

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wow thats true.. so you say its better if i say that right now?... "im sorry for last night, i really did have a headache which is why i may have sounded abrupt.. have time for some ice cream after school tomorow?"
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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DonJuan11 said:
You don't want to text first because then she'll think she'll have "complete control"? What the heck does that mean? Do you want to be with her and have sex with her or prove that no girl can outwit you? Man this site has brainwashed people...

Call her and say: "I apologize for last night, I really did have a headache which is why I may have sounded abrupt. Do you have time for ice cream after class? I know this great place around corner."

Don't make an issue out of it. The longer you wait to respond, the more of an issue it becomes.
Why the f would he apologize when he did absolutely nothing to apologize for...

I agree with calling her but i would ask her what was up w that text? Tell her that i wasnt feeling well and had to go to bed and that her last text was uncalled for. I would even go further and call her out on being a control freak and ask her if she expected me to stay up with her while i was sick just to freaking text with her. If that doesnt get the picture across than she needs to be NEXTed... I dont care how hot she is , she is not worth the drama if she acts like that. ...
 

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JerryFl08 said:
wow thats true.. so you say its better if i say that right now?... "im sorry for last night, i really did have a headache which is why i may have sounded abrupt.. have time for some ice cream after school tomorow?"
Bro if you apologize to this girl she will not have any respect for you. In all honesty she doesnt seem to have any respect for you now or she might be used to treating guys like that because she is so hot. You need to be different and stand up to her... as hard as it might be to understand she will actually like that because you had the balls and confidence to stand up to her..

Its like apologizing to someone because he/she stepped on YOUR foot or hit you with their elbow. You think that person will have respect for you .... NO but if you give them the WTF look they will more than likely say i am sorry and will actually respect you.



Apologizing will just prove to her that you are a whimp and desperate...Last time i checked pushovers and wussies dont get ***** from HOT girls. If you lose her because you stand up to her, it will mean that she never cared about you in the first place and was only using you. IF she dumps you because you stood up to her chances are you werent going to get anywhere with this girl anyway even if you were all nice to her. Why do you think all guys say "Nice guys finish last "
 

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alright i already kinda fcked up... i was wonderin to why i should apologize but i did it anyway all stupid... then after that i said what you said prodigy.. and she said "i wasnt expectin anything i dont wanna talk about it i'm sleepy..night"
me:night}} usually she's always the one texting me and stuff cuz im always teasing her and stuff.. im like never a nice guy with her.. i completely regret apologizing now but whatever we learn from our mistakes... i dont think i got dumped or anything.. i think its jus more of an argument.. i'll keep you all informed if anything happens tomorow cuz im gonna go to sleep already... feel free to leave comments anyway
 

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Its all right man... you definitely did mess up if you apologized and than said what i told you to say. Its like saying i am sorry for blah blah blah than saying you are wrong for blah blah blah... it seems like you cant make up your mind and she wont take you seriously..

I see that you are new here .I would recommend you read the DJ bible and go from there...
http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/

Also you shouldnt take all the advice posted on here. Some people will post bad advice like the poster above which will make you look like a chum/ AFC. That is why it is very important that you read the DJ bible so i you can get an idea whats bad advice and whats good advice.

GL man
 

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Haha, no apologies. Really? She's being a whiny brat and you have to show you're above that. Don't text her the next day, call her bluff. I know there's no point in me saying this since you already screwed up, but you had nothing to apologize for here. If she's as hot as you say, that's why she acts the way she does; she can get away with it. Don't be like every other guy that grovels at her feet just because she's good looking. Stand out by not taking any of her crap.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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DonJuan11 said:
You don't want to text first because then she'll think she'll have "complete control"? What the heck does that mean? Do you want to be with her and have sex with her or prove that no girl can outwit you? Man this site has brainwashed people...

Call her and say: "I apologize for last night, I really did have a headache which is why I may have sounded abrupt. Do you have time for ice cream after class? I know this great place around corner."

Don't make an issue out of it. The longer you wait to respond, the more of an issue it becomes.

Dude this chick is a princess/attention w-hore, my $hit don't stink type of girl. What she did was complete bullshyt and the original poster doesn't owe her jack-$hit!!

DO NOT contact this girl, especially if she's that hot. It'll drive her nuts that your not following suit like every other chump who kisses her @ss. If she contacts you, game on! If not, consider it a blessing in disguise.

Go look up the post by Back-Breaker titled, "Just because she's hawt"




PIMP
 

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alright well turned out she did txt me today all messed up though..her:I'm bored so txt me" me: maybe aroun 15 minutes cuz im drivin around.. her: ah fine whatever bye!" eventually i got her to be normal again and she was laughin and whatever... her brother was having a baseball game so she told me to go so i went but i only got to go for like the last 15minutes cuz my parents needed to use my car.. when i got there her mom was there to which was a downfall for me.. so we were there jus talking and making fun of the players cause they kinda werent good since they were in junior high.. id say it was a somewhat fun time... well when we were about to take off all i got was a freakin hug which sucks but her mom was like right in front of us....well i just got home from that.. i dont plan on txting her or anything until she txts me which im pretty sure she will cuz she's gonna be wondering like "alright why isnt this guy calling/txting me or anything" and she is definately not use to that....alright so what are you thoughts or opinions on what i should do or what not to do?
 

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im sure thats true but we're still in hs.. shes a smore and im a junior
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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honestly part of me is glad that i couldn't get a girl to save my life until college. this girl sounds annoying as ****
 

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honestly part of me is glad that i couldn't get a girl to save my life until college. this girl sounds annoying as ****
lol yea i'll admit she's somewhat annoying at times but shes just to hot lol seriously..
last night she told me i was the 1st guy to ever not txt her back when she said to not txt her and then she asked me why i didnt txt her and i just flatout said:
"Cuz i know any other guy would just give in and say plz txt me whatever blah blah... welllll in my mind i was jus thinkin i dont have to be puttin up with this crap right now expecially since i was the one not feelin good and it made me wanta sleep"
Her: wow even more fcked up...night
me: well i thought that fairly answerd ur question but nightnight :)"
Her: a$s
lol honestly idk why but i thought this was super funny... anyways then this morning while at school she txted me trying to make a conversation with me..of course i txted her back and whatever and so far we're good right now... im sure something like this is gonna come up again but she already knows i wont deal with any of her crap
 

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JerryFl08 said:
last night she told me i was the 1st guy to ever not txt her back when she said to not txt her and then she asked me why i didnt txt her and i just flatout said:
"Cuz i know any other guy would just give in and say plz txt me whatever blah blah... welllll in my mind i was jus thinkin i dont have to be puttin up with this crap right now expecially since i was the one not feelin good and it made me wanta sleep"
Her: wow even more fcked up...night
me: well i thought that fairly answerd ur question but nightnight :)"
Her: a$s

No it's because you have other things to do and she's not the center of your universe. Well that would be the proper explanation but you're obsessed with this girl. You basically told her you're using the 'not texting back straight away' tactic to impress her.


The reason not texting back straight away works is because if you're always texting back straight away it might look as though you're putting her on a pedestal. Only low value guys do that.
 
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