"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Not sure if I've put myself in a good situation

SteR

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Basically there's a girl I'm trying to hook up with, however I rarely get the chance to see her (only met her a few times). I do however see her friends relatively often and they're aware I'm after this girl.

The problem is that now they're 'aware' of the situation, they're trying to get us two together but I can't work out whether this is a good thing? My experience from the past has shown girls to be incredibly annoying when in this situation.. jamming their oar in a little too much, if that makes any sense? All I want them to do is just get me to the same social events as her so I can work my magic.. not try and guide my pen1s into her vag1na..

Anyone been in this situation before?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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If they're aware, then she already knows. If she already knows, then every time you run into her and you don't make a move, she sees you as more and more beta. Actually, it's probably already too late. Look for someone else.
 

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Better she see them as on your side than NOT. But LL is right...once the all-clear has been given by her friends, you need to MOVE on this. If you hesitate, you run not only the risk of turning HER off but making THEM look like fools for trying to set you up with her as well.

You should not be doing ANYTHING through her friends. They can go work their meddling on their own. YOU focus on the target and closing the deal.
 

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squirrels said:
Better she see them as on your side than NOT. But LL is right...once the all-clear has been given by her friends, you need to MOVE on this. If you hesitate, you run not only the risk of turning HER off but making THEM look like fools for trying to set you up with her as well.

You should not be doing ANYTHING through her friends. They can go work their meddling on their own. YOU focus on the target and closing the deal.
Ha! No pressure on me now..

But you're right, I don't agree with working through her friends either. The whole situation arose because my buddy (that I told in confidence) let it slip to her friends and now they're being all giggly trying to play 'matchmaker'. I've told them to just get me to a situation where I can see her then i'll take it from there but now they're turning this whole situation into a giant pressure cooker! They're sending me all these stupid emails saying 'yea we'll tell her you're a great guy and she should give you a chance'. WTF? Talk about making me appear like a pu55y...

I'm pretty confident I can get this girl (my gut instinct is she's into me) but I need to work alone on this. I can just picture them all making this incredibly awkward...
 

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SteR said:
I'm pretty confident I can get this girl (my gut instinct is she's into me) but I need to work alone on this. I can just picture them all making this incredibly awkward...
You don't need to "work" on anything. What is there to "work" on?? Ask the girl out for coffee/drinks/bowling/whatever sometime. Or if you're hanging out with her and all your other friends, put some kino on her and work for either the number or an all-out "close" that night.

What her friends do is between her and her friends...treat it like background noise. :p

It is YOU and YOUR frame that decides whether it's "awkward" or not. Don't make too much out of it. You're not solving Unified Field Theory, you're not building an empire, you're seducing a woman. Have FUN with it. ;)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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