"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Not sure how to proceed here...

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Met a girl on friday, got her number. I was pretty drunk that evening and sent her a couple of joke texts (neither of which she replied to) and then rang her later that night. Problem was the phone rang for like 5 rings then went to a busy tone.. wtf does that mean?

I figured either she's ignoring me or the phone's duff. I tried ringing just now (sunday) and same thing happened.

I'm gonna leave it for now.. but i'm wondering should I send her a message on facebook or something? (it's the only other way i can contact her) If I'm being rejected, then fair enough. But I don't want to assume rejection and cut off contact when it could be possible the phone's screwed.

What does one do in this situation? :cry:
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You're probably not gonna get anything out of this girl...

You gotta control yourself...no drunk texting, no drunk dialing.

No Facebook message...you already have her number, which is THE MOST DIRECT AND PERSONAL way to access a person, so why do you think messaging her online will help your cause?

Honestly, girls give out their numbers all the time, whether or not that ever intend to go out with the guy they give it to.

So you know the usual advice...spin plates. Go game some other chicks, forget about this one.

That said, sure you could give her a call in a week or two, just don't expect too much.
 

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If the phone line isnt working, go ahead and FB her ONCE, and explain. Its stupid to write her off before you find out the reason behind it. She may have accidentally gave you the wrong number. Its even possible that she's wondering why you haven't called. Maybe she didnt pay her bill. Who knows?

I dont know of any way to make an incoming call go to a busy signal.

You know the saying "Give her a chance to give you a chance." Which is something too many people here dont get. They say "write her off" before you even have ANY clue about the situation. IF she ignors your FB message, THEN write her off, but assume nothing in the mean time.
 

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This is the HB9, isn't it?

I hate to say it, but you're probably not a priority for her because she has so many options. You're going to have to be a little patient. Stop trying to get a hold of her, at least for now. Go watch the movie Swingers and check out that scene where Jon Favreau calls that girl he just got the number from repeatedly. That's exactly what you don't want to do, and how you don't want to come across.

I agree with ARocket you should go spin some other plates. This girl sounds like she's in the big leagues, and if you're going to play in the big leagues you have to know that you have other options just like she does.
 

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you already know know the answer to your question....she's not interested.

PS. there is nothing wrong with her phone.

btw is she the only girl on your plate? (because it looks like so)
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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zekko said:
This is the HB9, isn't it?

I hate to say it, but you're probably not a priority for her because she has so many options. You're going to have to be a little patient. Stop trying to get a hold of her, at least for now. Go watch the movie Swingers and check out that scene where Jon Favreau calls that girl he just got the number from repeatedly. That's exactly what you don't want to do, and how you don't want to come across.

I agree with ARocket you should go spin some other plates. This girl sounds like she's in the big leagues, and if you're going to play in the big leagues you have to know that you have other options just like she does.
yea this is the 9.

The problem is, I have 3 girls on hand that I can have on demand.. I've also met a 4th tonight that's looking pretty promising - it's not helping though. Even though I have these other plates, it's really pissed me off that I lost out on the one plate I really wanted :(

I do have an update: I got talking with one of her mates at the pub tonight. She was saying how she does this all the time with guys so I've decided to leave it be ie. gets them hooked then leads them on.

What really hurts is that my best mate asked me if he could have a go at her now that I'm done, doh (I was hoping that as my best bud he'd read between the lines and leave her be but doesn't seem to be that way).

It's gonna be a rough few weeks until I can get this failure outta my mind :(
 

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Not worth it to be hung up about it, nor is the woman worth it as well.
 

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PapiChulo said:
Not worth it to be hung up about it, nor is the woman worth it as well.
Well the unfortunate downside to this is I developed a mild crush on the girl (I've actually met her a few times before).. which makes this all the more painful. Obviously I realise my emotions are playing tricks on me and there are plenty of other girls out there.. it just doesn't make it hurt any less :( :cry:
 

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I do have an update: I got talking with one of her mates at the pub tonight. She was saying how she does this all the time with guys so I've decided to leave it be ie. gets them hooked then leads them on.

What really hurts is that my best mate asked me if he could have a go at her now that I'm done, doh (I was hoping that as my best bud he'd read between the lines and leave her be but doesn't seem to be that way).
She sounds like the classic attention wh0re. Not surprising, a lot of HB9s are like this. I know how it is. Girls that good looking can get inside your head. That's a little messed up about your buddy.

Take comfort in this:
At least you took your shot instead of chickening out like a pansy.
At least you have other plates to spin, that's more than some guys on this forum can say.
When it comes right down to it, this girl isn't worth your time. You deserve better.

I'd say spend your time trying to increase your value, work out, improve your career, etc. Then someday she can realize she missed her opportunity. Men's value tends to go up as they get older, while women's go down.

I saw a perfect example of this recently with a few people I went to school with (my age). This one girl was very cute in high school, pretty blonde. This other guy was kind of an ugly looking dufus. The years went by, she had kids, got divorced, got older, put on a little weight. He learned a trade, got a good job, got a good circle of friends. Now they're probably going to get married. Back in high school it would have been unthinkable for her to go out with him. Now it looks like she's getting the better end of the deal.
 

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zekko said:
She sounds like the classic attention wh0re. Not surprising, a lot of HB9s are like this. I know how it is. Girls that good looking can get inside your head. That's a little messed up about your buddy.
Yep. I'm completely aware of how oneitis should be avoided like the plague but I really seem to have no control of my feelings at the moment - it's horrible. I think I could deal with it if it was just a case of forgetting her and moving on... I'm not sure if I could hack it if my best mate hooked up with her. I'm really, really hoping that doesn't happen.

What irritates me is that the exact same situation happened to him a week ago and he didn't learn his lesson. His friend ended up hooking up with a chick he liked and now he's about to repeat the same thing with me..

zekko said:
Take comfort in this:
At least you took your shot instead of chickening out like a pansy.
At least you have other plates to spin, that's more than some guys on this forum can say.
Yea I'm at least glad that I took my chances.. and it's flattering having other girls chasing me - I just wish they were high-value girls! I mean they're in the range of 7-8 looks but in comparison to a 9 they just don't compete.

zekko said:
When it comes right down to it, this girl isn't worth your time. You deserve better.

I'd say spend your time trying to increase your value, work out, improve your career, etc. Then someday she can realize she missed her opportunity. Men's value tends to go up as they get older, while women's go down.

I saw a perfect example of this recently with a few people I went to school with (my age). This one girl was very cute in high school, pretty blonde. This other guy was kind of an ugly looking dufus. The years went by, she had kids, got divorced, got older, put on a little weight. He learned a trade, got a good job, got a good circle of friends. Now they're probably going to get married. Back in high school it would have been unthinkable for her to go out with him. Now it looks like she's getting the better end of the deal.
Yea I completely agree with what you're saying.. and I realise that maybe I'll see her in the future and things will be better for me but right now, I'll be honest, it really hurts!

Thanks for the kind words though!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Not to rag on you, but what was the logic behind texting her repeatedly after getting her number, and then calling her the same night?

Even while drunk, that has "bad idea" written all over it, yes? That's like the anti-poon.
 

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Iceberg said:
Not to rag on you, but what was the logic behind texting her repeatedly after getting her number, and then calling her the same night?

Even while drunk, that has "bad idea" written all over it, yes? That's like the anti-poon.
Well the texts were just jokes ie. "SteR is the best, he is so handsome". I only called because when I was walking home I thought the number was 12 digits (ie. a fake number) so I gave it a try. I do realise it was a mistake.. but unfortunately I was pretty drunk at the time, ha. Lesson learnt!
 

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How do you have a crush on girl you met in the bar one time? The first line of your post says you met her on Friday and got her number. i dont understand.
 

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Yeah, she's not interested in you. It sounds like she hung up on you when you called.
 

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horaholic said:
How do you have a crush on girl you met in the bar one time? The first line of your post says you met her on Friday and got her number. i dont understand.
I've met her 3-4 times before but friday was the first time I've met her since she's been single
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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It's not rocket science to tell if a girl likes you. Trust me, you will know if she's into you. If there's any doubt (or if you're telling yourself "well maybe I will give it one more shot") that means she doesn't like you. Next!
 

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Easy to say dude, but move on and focus on the other girls. If she was interested in you she would either return your calls or reply to your texts. Doing neither suggests she is deliberatly ignoring you in the hope you'll give up. If a girl does this, you've got little to no chance - so just move on to others. It's a number's game. You have to know when you're beaten sometimes.
 

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Yea, I decided to cut her loose the second after I realised she rejected my call. It's just a little sad seeing someone so beautiful slip through my fingers.

Fingers crossed I find someone better! :cheer:
 

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Just a quick update as I need a little support..

Basically, the evening of calling this chick up and getting rejected, my best friend asked if he could have a crack at this girl. I told him he could but deep down I was praying to God he'd just let it go. Since the 2 weeks ago or so that this happened my crush has been subsiding as I've been busy etc.

However last night my friend was out with her friends at one of their houses, started sending me texts about how hot she looked in some pics he'd seen of her (reminding me of what I was missing out on) and then proceeded to ask me again whether he could have a crack at her?

Again I had to say yes, but truth be told I'm devastated. I mean I well aware that girls are interchangeable and I shouldn't be bothered about this but a) There's no way I can control my feelings. I developed a crush despite every effort to resist it and b) If he brings her back to our place (I live with him) then it's just going to be too much.

I'm really hoping nothing happens between the two of them ie. she refuses to go out with him but the problem is, she probably will. I don't know how I'm going to deal with it all... any tips?

I've been doing everything I can to try and stay busy but it's very difficult considering I have to live with the guy and hear him talk about this.

I'd love to just go out, get drunk and hit on other women but I'm in financial trouble at the moment AND my social circle kinda involves my best bud.. so I don't know what to do. I feel trapped!
 

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Hahaha you are fvcking pathetic, 6 years on this forum. Makes me wonder if its of any use.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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