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Not in high school anymore, but...LOL

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Hey guys, I'm not in high school anymore, I graduated in 2003, but I got a question for you high school DJs. Now, for those of you who don't know, a lot of girls that are out of high school (20+ y.o.) don't play games and get to the point a lot faster (cuz they realize they won't be young forever). So I've adjusted my skills and techniques for girls around my age (I'm 20, 21 in February). Now recently I started talking to this girl who is in high school (but she's 18, thank god hahaha) and I'm noticing my skills don't match her maturity level. Here's a couple facts about her:

- 18 y.o. HB9 (9.5 on good days)
- caucasian (mixed European)
- finishing last year of high school
- wifey type (hates clubs and whatnot)
- dry sarcastic sense of humour
- doesn't have a job
- prefers staying home rather than going out (to an extreme! But this isn't necessarily good because there are over 10 people living in her house)
- loves complaining (i think she might be a little bit depressed, but she covers it up)
- suspects that I'm a player (but I'm not, I get a lot of girls, but I'm actually interested in the girls, not just hookups)
- ****y & Funny annoys her (even tho she's an HB9, I think she has self-esteem issues)

Now here's the thing....what kind of technique do you guys think would work better on her? Do you guys that are in high school ever have to VERBALLY tell a girl you are interested in her? I mean, girls my age JUST KNOW. But I have a feeling this girl never developed properly socially because she always stays home and she barely ever goes to school (I know, don't lecture me about this LOL).

Oh, I should probably mention that I do enjoy her company as a friend as well. She's actually pretty cool. My intuition tells me that the reason she's holding out on me so far is:

1. She thinks I'm a player (which isn't true, but I haven't figured out how to convince her of this)
2. She's had bad experiences with her previous relationships (stalkers, jailbirds, etc just bad quality guys)

Besides that, she loves me, she's always excited to talk to me and gets bummed when I have to leave.

Let me know what a high school DJ would do to get her to open up. HAHAHA!!! (By the way guys, I DON'T have onetis with this chick, I'm approaching this like an experiment)
 

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sounds like a lot of baggage. and those arent exactly positive aspects you have listed there. is this girl really worth it?

as a guy in high school, i dont need any added drama, and this girl seems to have it in spades.

also as a guy in high school, i have a wide selection, :D. i'd find someone more stable.

good luck, regardless.
 

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oh ok, here's the positives:

- loyal (doesn't even talk to other guys right now, and we're not really dating)
- stay at home (even less of a chance she'll cheat LOL)
- same social class (we're both from the projects, I personally can't stand rich girls)
- VERY HOT! (face, tits, ass, entire body)
- same taste in music & movies
- same sense of humour as me

I guess I listed some of these in a negative light hahaha...

oK, is she worth the trouble...she might be....but probably not. Like I said, I use every interaction as an experiment to try new tactics and techniques. A lot of you guys are obsessed with NEXTing a girl, but I try and learn as much as I can from each interaction. I mean, if I'm gonna NEXT her, I might as well get as much as I can from the situation before I do.

I'm asking for more for techniques here, not whether or not I should pursue. I have my own style that is slightly different from the popular culture here at this forum.

Actually a lot of you guys that need to get some DJ stuff handled should probably do what I do: Treat interactions like experiments........kind of like that movie Groundhog Day starring Bill Murray
 

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Sounds like an emo chick.
If you want to have sex non stop, and have her fall madly in love with you, go out with her.
This is just from my personal experience with what you have described.
I love rich girls, even though I'm poor.
 

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emo chick? as in emotional??? yeah...hahahaha...but have you ever met a chick who isn't? LOOOL im just teasing

You say "go out with her" do u mean as in LTR? or just get her ass out the house?

LOL...actually it's funny, we were talkin the other day about sex and she said she that she's never had sex in a car. This got me excited for 2 reasons haha...1. I have a big car with a big backseat and 2. this probably means she isn't a slut (Who hasn't fooled around in the backseat now, c'mon!?!?!)

In my opinion, the main obstacle is convincing her I'm not a player (cuz she's looking for a relationship). Any suggestions, HS DJs?

I actually come across that problem a lot...a lotta girls just assume I'm a player because I'm so comfortable when I talk to them and I can carry a fun conversation forever and keep them laughing and intrigued. Still tryna figure out how to not give off that impression. hmmmm
 

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TBH She probably dont care, if u can hold good convo then she probably knows she aint wasting her time, if she says she gets the feeling ur a player then:

1) Shes not diggin ya'
or
2) Shes scared how she will appear to her friends
 

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you're 20, shes still in highschool.

dude....come on.
 

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Player or not just go for her... and if you dont mind a LTR, then keep the flirting to a serious minimal when your with others girls while shes around. And keeping with the LTR in mind, if you really dont want to be seen as a player, simply talk to others girls but dont initiate anything physical. But you can be physical with that HB 9 girl.


Lastly, if she calls you a player, ask her to define the word. If she says someone that plays with girls then thats not you cuz you actually like them. If she says its someone that gets a lot of girls, tell her your just being yourself. You get the idea... get the image in her brain that you are just being yourself and that its a disgrace for people to call you a player (act innocent - and in a way sorta AFC).

[When i say AFC, i mean act as if you wont play her]
 

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Emo chicks are the type who believe in true love, and won't give it up to the first guy they see. I guess this means if you just want a one night stand, you'll have to make her think you love her. Which is kind of like a player.
What do you want though? What's your goals for this girl?
I take it you don't want to be a player. So you want to date her? I'm in HS, so go out with a chick to me meand LTR. lol.
Maybe I'm wrong, but she wants to find the one man she can live with forever.
Doesn't mean you have to become a p*ssy, you wouldn't do that.
But this is more of a balance kind of thing. Keep the challenge, and do whatever you need to make her love you, but don't overdo it, she might become crazy obsessed with you. Just find a balance that works well for both of you.

I'm thinking this will work. Not sure.
 

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The reason I don't like being called a player or actually being one is that I have been that without realising it, but now I'm trying to change into a decent person. Another reason is that when I was being a player, I found it to be a huge distraction mentally. Juggling girls is not easy to pull off. Plus my so called "relationships" were rocky at best. I didn't enjoy them that much. I wouldn't mind getting into a LTR with this one.

So here's the plan:

1. Clear up the fact that I'm not a player (anymore LOL). I'm gonna do what you said, []D [] []V[] []D. I never even paid attention to toning down the flirting with other girls, it's just how I am. PLus, I'm sure we'll have that discussion soon, and I'll clear things up for her so she's stops hesistating.

2. Make her think we could possibly have a future together. You're right, 08aisaac, this is a player-ish move, but it has to be done with this one. I'm not gonna say I love you...I DON'T! What I think I have to do with her is pursue with a little more aggresiveness. My style is usually laid back and I let the girls come to me...it works most of the time. If I make her think that I'm pursuing her and her only then she'll open up....no pun intended
:crackup:

But great advice guys! I'll keep you posted on how it turns out.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Originally posted by Patrick124
you're 20, shes still in highschool.

dude....come on.
Not sure what you're trying to say exactly. But if you think age vs maturity level, personality type, and experience are all perfectly correlated, you're sadly mistaken.

But, if that's not what you meant, then please elaborate.

Just so you know, I am 20 but in reality I'm probably more like someone who's 25-30 y.o. I've started two seperate business ventures, I don't even go to school, and I'm known across the city, professionally. And DJ-wise, I never played the high school games and that's why I'm not familiar with some things that these younger girls do.
 
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