"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Not in her pants.

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I've been dating this girl for a while. When I go to put my hand down her pants or take them off she will stop me. I'll back off and not try again until a week or so later.

However, she has no problem with me removing her shirt or me putting my hand anywhere on her body but down the front of her pants. She sleeps over at my place occasionally and she will also initiate going into my pants or taking them off and giving me a handjob.

I'm just wondering possibities as to why she is fine with getting a hand on me but not me getting a hand on her. What makes a girl comfortable with touching you before you touching them rather than the other way around or being comfortable with both around the same time?
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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My first girlfriend was like this. She was a virgin like me and would do everything except let me see her *****. I was confused like you, so here is what i did:

When we were being sexual i focused a lot of my dirty talk to what i wanted to do down there. She also let me kiss around down there so i started from her lips and slowly kissed down her body to her waistline. I worked hard on getting her as horny as possible in that area.

Eventually she got horny enough and wanted it bad enough that i made a move and it worked.

By the way these were my sort of AFC days in high school so this may not be the best method this is just what i did.

Later i talked to her about it and found out that she was just shy about the way she was down there and she didnt want to be seen as a slut. So my advice is to just get her attracted to you more and push the physical stuff to a higher level.

Good Luck :up:
 

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Pathgen said:
... she was just shy about the way she was down there and she didnt want to be seen as a slut.
I'm fairly sure that this is the reason, she is self-conscious about her downstairs. She is a shy girl and this is in line with her other actions.
 

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Wolf said:
Omfg she has a penis!!!

... lol


Seriously though, not all girls are comfortable with that sort of thing, just let her take it at her own pace.
hahah thats exactly what i thought jokingly ,,..
 

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lol... she doesn't have a penis. I've been down there, just been evacuated shortly after getting there.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Wolf said:
Seriously though, not all girls are comfortable with that sort of thing, just let her take it at her own pace.
What i bolded is the exact same reason why i hate trolls like you. I can't believe you offer this crappy advice when you have over 900+ posts and have been here for so long.

All you do here is nag, complain and put people down. Eventually you come around and you try to give out advice, but it is the biggest pile of crap i've ever read.

Everyone can tell you're a virgin. It's like the blind leading the deaf here.

Wolf, don't bother commenting, because you'd only look like more of an idiot.

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Now, on this topic.

You need to be a man. As a man you should be a LEADER. This means take the lead and YOU set the pace at which this goes.

Do exactly what "Pathgen" said. That is get her really aroused to the point where she just can't control herself. Women lose a lot of sensation from rubbing through the pants/jeans/panties, so until you get your hand directly stimulating the ****oris, it's an uphill battle.

Once you get your hand on the klit and you are touching it, the game is over.

To get so far though, you need to use dirty talking, a lot of visual words and make sure you arouse her. Also some women have "trigger" spots as I call them. These are spots on their bodies that makes them quiver and tremble .. usually around the neck, shoulders, upper back behind the shoulder.. etc. Sometimes they can be on their stomach. One girl I dated had hers just above her waist .. when i would blow air there, she would totally lose it.
 

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Cashew said:
She sleeps over at my place occasionally and she will also initiate going into my pants or taking them off and giving me a handjob.
A handjob? you born without hands or something? Now even if she is "shy" ehehehe :rolleyes: about her cvnt, whats that pie hole in the middle of her face going to waste for?

This behaviour is unacceptable , and your rewarding bad behaviour by allowing these B.S sleepovers. NEXT.

"Waaaahhhhh, why?"

"Sorry babe, your a great chick and all, but handjobs...are you for real?"

See, it's easy.
 

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I'm not asking for advice on how to get it done. I already know what I need to do for that, which Pathgen/Metaphysical are pretty spot on about. I am making progress and will get there.

I was interested in discussing what makes her, or another girl, act the way she does in the given situation. What makes a girl comfortable with touching you before you touching them rather than the other way around or being comfortable with both around the same time?

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A handjob? you born without hands or something? Now even if she is "shy" ehehehe :rolleyes: about her cvnt, whats that pie hole in the middle of her face going to waste for?

This behaviour is unacceptable , and your rewarding bad behaviour by allowing these B.S sleepovers. NEXT.

"Waaaahhhhh, why?"

"Sorry babe, your a great chick and all, but handjobs...are you for real?"

See, it's easy.
This has nothing to do with what I am asking. And if I were asking for what people think I should DO, I would have provided more relevant information to that situation. As it stands I did not provide everything I think you should know to offer sufficient advice in my situation. If I wasn't getting anywhere or wanted advice, I'd ask for it.

Despite both your's and Wolf's "advice" being in all actuality pretty terrible (the thought processes behind them rather than the goal they work toward), he at least seemed to have read the topic and although his "omg a penis" post was a joke, it at least was on topic, whereas yours gets nowhere close.

I swear these forums can be such sh!t. Of the few threads I've made here looking to discuss something, the users automatically try giving advice on a situation when it isn't asked and a lot of the time something I have already taken care of. Being a Don Juan isn't all about escalating to sex or picking up girls. Yeah, those can be great, but there is more to it that that. Some of you guys here are fvcking ridiculous.
 
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I was interested in discussing what makes her, or another girl, act the way she does in the given situation. What makes a girl comfortable with touching you before you touching them rather than the other way around or being comfortable with both around the same time?
Who cares, it's not normal thats all you need to be concerned with, your not her therapist.

Your 22, you should be up to your nuts in a whole variety of guts, not puzzy footing around with a time waster.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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What does any of what I am asking have to do with being her therapist? I am not helping her with anything, she isn't coming to me for advice or help with her problems.

If your mentality is "Who cares" that's fine. You don't need to reply. I don't need a bunch of posts telling me to do what I am already doing.
 

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Girls are shy and need to be comfortable blah blah blah. Either step your game up or find a girl who is ready to fvck. Or if you really like this girl... be patient...
 
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