normal guys vs dj

[kelv]

havent u realised that some of the guys also managed to get a gf without resorting to such DJ techniques? They used the simple chase the girl method and managed to touch her heart.
For ppl like us, we have to learn manually all the tricks here and analyze how to execute them in order to snag a girl. And ya know, too much power comes high big responsibilities, im afraid with all these lethal dj skills, i wouldnt be able to keep my pants on even after i get married. The temptation to use it is just there. I rather ignorance is bliss.

 

[Exhumed]

No.

 

[Tiguere]

Any chump could get a girlfriend. Keeping her while also keeping the power is the key.

 

[Crazy Asian]

sorry, but you're stupid.
keep reading on these forums for a bit longer and you'll begin to see the light.

 

[zekko]

I kind of like the way you use the term "normal guys". Normally on this forum they talk about just two types of guys, AFCs and DJs. Maybe there should be three types instead: AFCs, normal guys, and DJs. The normal guy would have a mix of AFC and DJ qualities (like most guys in the real world).

It seems like the term "normal guy" reflects reality a lot more than just seperating everybody into chumps and players.

 

[teacha]

lol the OP now thinks he's a superhero....go get 'em spiderman!

 

[runner83]

Any loser can get a girl of some sort with those tactics....and end up in a relationship or (gasp!) marriage as a p*ssified wimp controlled by the woman.

But getting a girl isn't the point.

The point is to work out what you want in life, figure out how to get it, and then grow a pair and go out and get them.

To achieve your full potential as a man!!

 

[Commandante]

Any chump could get a girlfriend. Keeping her while also keeping the power is the key.

Exactly. I see a lot of young (30+) couples with one or two kids where the wife seems to feel like "yeah, I´ve done it, I´m there where I wanted to be" and the man seems to feel like "OMFG, what have I done, pls shoot me right now".

 

[zekko]

nah, they got lucky. But I spit onto that type of luck. You should have the woman you want, not the woman you can get.

I think you underestimate "normal guys". Most guys go through life, experience life, and come to many of the same conclusions that are taught here. It's called learning by experience. Most guys learn how to attract women out in the real world (pickup guys call it the field).

Do you really think you have to be a member of the Sosuave forum to get women? I've got news for you, guys have been attracting women for thousands of years before the internet was even invented.

 

[SandHawk]

I concur with a lot of these people. How many "normal" guys do you know that lay an average of 2 to 5 new girls in one month, keep them interested enough to come back for more and then keep em as plates around while having multiple of those?

I know none. All the guys I know that I talk about girls with are amazed with the fact that at my high point I banged 3 different girls at the same time. They wondered how the hell I managed to f*ck girl 1, change my bed sheets and then within 24 hours of #1 going home bang #2. Most normal guys I know only pursue one girl at the same time, fail a few times with a bunch of girls over the period of several months, sometimes get lucky, but in general, their access to poon is extremely limited.

So yes, we do learn a certain skill set. A skill set that comes down to being a great person so that we ourselves can enjoy our life the way WE want to enjoy it, not how someone else wants us to life it OR life it the way that happens to us. DJs make their own world spin, are great social creatures that everyone seems to love(except a few AFCs who are jealous that we snatch all the chicks away in front of them).

That is not what I call a trick, that's living freely and being able to say "I lived a fulfilling life" when you're 86 and about to die. Hell, even if I died tomorrow morning in an explosion, I'd enter the gates of hell* with the thought that I lived my life fulfilling, unlike many others that preceded me.

* I'm not some religious tw*t. I believe dying is the end.

 

[zekko]

I concur with a lot of these people. How many "normal" guys do you know that lay an average of 2 to 5 new girls in one month, keep them interested enough to come back for more and then keep em as plates around while having multiple of those?

I know none. All the guys I know that I talk about girls with are amazed with the fact that at my high point I banged 3 different girls at the same time.

If you're getting 2-5 new girls a month and keeping them shouldn't you be banging more than three different girls at a time?

I don't really think the number of plates you have at any one time is the most reliable indicator of success with women. A better measurement might be the quality of women you can get, and whether or not you can keep them if you desire. If your goal is just trying to bang multiple women I honestly don't think that is that difficult a task to achieve (although I guess it is for some).

Nothing against you Sandhawk, I'm sure you're a successful guy. It's just that a lot of guys come here that can't even get a date, then they learn a few tricks, get out and have a little success, and all of a sudden they think they're at the top of the food chain, and look down on everybody else. It's a pet peeve of mine. Do you really think the best guys in the world with women are on this forum?

A skill set that comes down to being a great person so that we ourselves can enjoy our life the way WE want to enjoy it, not how someone else wants us to life it OR life it the way that happens to us.

How do you know the "normal guy" isn't living his life the way he wants to?
Maybe he's more interested in tending to his business than spending time getting "two to five new girls a month" to add to his plate collection.

DJs make their own world spin, are great social creatures that everyone seems to love

Is that what the goal is?
I honestly don't even care that much about being social these days. I can turn it on when I want to, but a lot of the time I have other things to do.

 

[RedZone]

The biggest difference between a DJ and a "normal" guy is that the "normal" guy doesn't stand up for himself in the relationship. My roommate/good friend falls under that category because he rarely ever does things without his gf. The only time he doesn't hang out with her is when SHE is busy. A DJ does not wait for the girl to be busy to hang out with his friends.

 

[actionjaxson]

theres no special tricks on this site its just to help completely clueless guys on how to be a man. normal guys already have it. almost every guy i've ever met gets chicks even if they are fat or ugly. the only guys who never get girls are really shy and have no social skills. like most of the guys on this site.

 

[Vanilla]

I've asked my co-workers how they found their wife, they usually say social circles, then dating for a few years, then marriage. In my opinion, that's a wasted life. I also say this because when I bring it up, they never sound happy. It's as if that's all they could get, so they'll settle.

 

[zekko]

The biggest difference between a DJ and a "normal" guy is that the "normal" guy doesn't stand up for himself in the relationship.

The social conditioning these days seems to be to make the guy the submissive one in the relationship. A guy I was just talking to referred to his wife as "the boss", for example. Ugh. Not in my house.

As far as "normal guys" go, every guy is different and every guy has his own personality. You can't just say all normal guys are wussies, because it isn't true.

almost every guy i've ever met gets chicks even if they are fat or ugly.

This is pretty much my experience too. Almost every guy I've known can get chicks. Some struggle with quality (the fat and ugly you refer to), but they usually have some issues with their personality.

I've asked my co-workers how they found their wife, they usually say social circles, then dating for a few years, then marriage.

I know several young guys where I work who cold approach all the time. As one of them said to me "all they can do is say no".

 

[Megaman XIV]

I know several young guys where I work who cold approach all the time. As one of them said to me "all they can do is say no".

Very true. It's just crazy in the ways there are they do say it. Women know how to feign interest and test the hell out of the normal guy and even more so because of the PUA community.

havent u realised that some of the guys also managed to get a gf without resorting to such DJ techniques? They used the simple chase the girl method and managed to touch her heart.

That's nothing more than dumb luck. Say 25 years ago, that would have worked better. Nowadays, you might get a face of mace or "I have a boyfriend."

 

[zekko]

Very true. It's just crazy in the ways there are they do say it.

Just to clarify, when the guy said "all they can do is say no" he meant it like "the worst they can do is say no". Meaning if he got rejected he didn't sweat it.

I've been reading Pook's Fifteen Lessons post, and I couldn't help but notice this statement he made from Lesson Eight. He was studying seduction theory:

Yet, he noticed that guys who did knew nothing of seduction scored left and right. How did they do it?

This pretty much goes along with what I said about a lot of "normal guys" can get women. You don't have to be a member of SoSuave. See, even Pook says so.

That's nothing more than dumb luck.

I don't think it's dumb luck that guys get women. Nature is set up for guys to get women. They may get some advice from friends or family. But guys go out there everyday and learn from their mistakes. They fall on their face and get up and try again. That's how most normal guys learn how to get women.

 

[Sturmblitz]

havent u realised that some of the guys also managed to get a gf without resorting to such DJ techniques? They used the simple chase the girl method and managed to touch her heart.
For ppl like us, we have to learn manually all the tricks here and analyze how to execute them in order to snag a girl. And ya know, too much power comes high big responsibilities, im afraid with all these lethal dj skills, i wouldnt be able to keep my pants on even after i get married. The temptation to use it is just there. I rather ignorance is bliss.

They used the simple chase the girl method and managed to touch her heart.

managed to touch her heart.

touch her heart

No. No. NO. This is the bullsh!t spread by the media and disney and fantasy movies. You don't get the girl by pursuing her and showing her how much you care. Reading her poetry, making her a painting, writing a song about her, none of that sh!t is going to get you the girl. Ignorance in this case is NOT bliss, it will sentence you to a life of loneliness, and the few relationships you do have will never live up to your idea of how love, marriage, and the "one" ought to be. If you get married believing that ****, you'll settle for less for the rest of your life.