normal body and body of a freak

[bud_2005]

Ok say I want to get big. Like say an NFL Linebacker. Here is a picture of Joey Porter. He is 6'3 which is tall but weighs 250:


http://www.femmefan.com/site/images/lookerspics/Joey_Porter.jpg

Now here is a picture of a bodybuilder:

http://www.cooqy.com/blog/images/bodybuilder.jpg

I don't know who he is but I'm guessing they weigh about the same. So for someone who wants to get big but look normal like Porter and not like freak like the bodybuilder how would you train?

 

[Interceptor]

Do the same , except work more isolation exercises for aesthetic reasons, and oh...don't do steroids. Not doing steroids will defintiely not make you look like a freak.

 

[Throttle]

do exactly the same work, eat the same diet, when you get too big crackup stop eating quite so much.

 

[EFFORT]

So for someone who wants to get big but look normal like Porter and not like freak like the bodybuilder how would you train?

this kind of question always cracks me up. Basically implying, for some reason you could just accidentally end up looking like the bodybuilder despite all the years of intense work/ genetics/drugs/ etc he put in to get to that point.

Trust me you won't end up looking like that.


As for training, nothing has changed. Take 1-2 years, eat like hell and work yourself up to at least 300lbs on bench for reps, and 400 for reps with squats and deadlifts.

You'll do that by follwing routines like the one in the where to start thread, modified wsb routines, routines from ironaddicts.com, stronglifts site has good ones too, i'd personally just start from where to start, follow it for the full time listed in the post and get your diet together.

 

[mintxx]

this reminds me of female friends who say 'i don't want lift weights, i'll look like a man'.. no honey, you couldn't if you tried.

 

[Fuglydude]

Seriously... I crack up everytime I hear the whole "I don't wanna get too big" thing haha.

Buddy...Joey Porter, and pretty much most of the athletes in the NFL are athletic freaks. Elite athletes like him and the bodybuilder (I think that's Marcus Ruhl) are BORN...not MADE...atleast not yet. Do even get remotely close to their level you'll need freaky genetics, an astute training program, and an incredibly sound diet. I think you have more things to worry about than "getting too big"!

Bodybuilders nowadays will run insane amounts of AAS, in combination with other more exotic drugs like HGH, IGF-1, insulin, etc. A couple of my buddies are higher level cage fighters, and I actually saw EPO (erythropoetin) in his fridge one time!

I seriously don't think you should be wasting your time worrying about "getting too big"...

 

[Dilberto]

I seriously don't think you should be wasting your time worrying about "getting too big"...

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Fug's right........getting too big actually requires MORE EFFORT than most people are willing to expend. I have never seen anybody become too yoked, by accident. The same goes for getting ripped, too. However, cutting can be overdone, with severe calorie restriction.

 

[HK1]

LOL, I dont think you'll ever run the risk of being as big as Markus Ruhl.

He's 5'10 and weighs around 280 lbs on stage, I believe he calls himself. Das superfreak. Hes the largest mass monster thats come across in years. More so then Coleman was.

I could only guess him being at about 320+ lbs during the off season.

edit: Heres a vid of him shopping, lol. Check out the way people react to him.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DEa6xgUyKVI

 

[bud_2005]

this reminds me of female friends who say 'i don't want lift weights, i'll look like a man'.. no honey, you couldn't if you tried.

I guess you have never seen a picture of Venus or Serena Williams??

 

[Warboss Alex]

I guess you have never seen a picture of Venus or Serena Williams??

that's like your saying any guy who lifts weights is going to end up looking like Markus Ruhl. these are genetic anomalies you're talking about.

put your sister/mother/wife/girlfriend/etc on a weight training program for a year and if they turn out looking like a tennis champion I might believe you.

 

[Throttle]

put your sister/mother/wife/girlfriend/etc on a weight training program for a year and if they turn out looking like a tennis champion I might believe you.

from my experience, they're all much more likely to turn out looking like a female tennis champion......

from the 1970s.

...think Chris Evert. And that's if they start out in relatively good shape but lack any significant muscle mass.

 

[Colossus]

Ok say I want to get big. Like say an NFL Linebacker. Here is a picture of Joey Porter. He is 6'3 which is tall but weighs 250:


http://www.femmefan.com/site/images/lookerspics/Joey_Porter.jpg

Now here is a picture of a bodybuilder:

http://www.cooqy.com/blog/images/bodybuilder.jpg

I don't know who he is but I'm guessing they weigh about the same. So for someone who wants to get big but look normal like Porter and not like freak like the bodybuilder how would you train?

No they dont weigh the same. The bodybuilder is Marcus Ruhl from Germany, a consistent top 10 Olympia placer. He is 5'10" i believe. 300 +.

When i was powerlifting, i looked similar to Porter (Im 6'0'', was 215 at my peak; 7% bf). A guy like Porter is a type II muscle fiber machine. Packed with dense, thick, hypertrophied red fibers (or white depending on the histochemical staining method). Type II are the fast, explosive, glycolytic muscle fibers (cells) you use for heavy lifts, sprints, jumps, etc.

Marcus Ruhl is indeed collossal (pun intended), but keep in mind his physique would not be physically possible without biochemical assistance.

In all probability Porter could be using some sort of hormonal assistance as well, but looks dont always tell the tale.

If you want to look (and feel) that big, it depends on a number of factors. Your body type, your metabolic rate, your responsiveness to exercise, the type of training you subject yourself to, and last but certainly not least, your diet.

In a nutshell, Here's the rub:

-Lift big. You should feel like you are pressing or pulling a house. But dont do this for more than 3-4 weeks. Switch up between low, intense reps (1-4), and high, pumping, more aerobic reps (10-15). The key here is to switch it up, or you WILL stagnate.

-Eat big. Lean, protein and carb-dense foods, like oatmeal, pasta, chicken (skinless), some beef, some fish, hearty greens, and whole grains. Think caveman food. If you are lifting as big as you should, you will need to eat 4-6 solid meals a day.

-Keep supplementation to a minimum (yes, you heard right). Dont ever let supplements take the place of whole foods. Its ok to use them, but remember to keep the provisions that mother earth provides your primary fuel source.

-Stick to big, compound movements. The key here is STRENGTH. Full squats (no cheating!), push-press, dumbell presses, rows, shrugs, barbell curls, lots of tricep extensions (with the barbell), weighted pullups, weighted dips, you get the idea. Avoid excessive use of machines. Big men lift big bars and plates.

Its really that simple. Dont get too caught up in details, it can be self-limiting. Keep it simple, CHANGE it up every 2-3 weeks, and EAT EAT EAT!!
PM me with any questions.

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