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week 2 complete

the last couple days have been awesome. every person that i could i had a convo with, every1 has so many stories and things to tell. i noticed that everyone LOVES to talk about themselves. i do to, but i caught myself n toned it down to 30/70. friday night to now i think i got 7-8 strangers and at least half a dozen people i semi-know (like u know the face, dont really talk 2 each other). got about half yesterday n the rest 2day. this is definetely something i need to keep up. when i occasionally returned to my social circle, they were like "did u know that person?" much more fun then just hangin out with the same people all the time.

the memorial thing was alright, got to see a lot of old friends. i was planning on talking to some new people but i had a lot of catching up to do



week 3 begins tomorrow, so all u ladies look out! noots is acomin
 

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week 3 update

week 3 has been slightly more difficult for a couple reasons. week 2 was a piece of cake since strangers are everywhere, but now that im trying to target girls id be interested in dating (based on looks) it makes the selection process a litlte more challenging. today i only had 1 convo, cute lil filipino girl, probably a 7.5-8. talked about how i got a B in my easiest class, which was suppose to be an easy A but im lazy and i gave priority to my hard classes, then i shifted it to being about her n what she wants to major in. im trying to pursue engineering, so im thinking of getting a BA in physics then applying to a engineering school after a few years (didnt tell her that, that would have been too much talking on my part). with that said, a lot of my time is spent studying, but i always have a ton of time i waste. something i really need to work on is working more efficiently, its almost 9 and ill be up late since i slacked off the past few days (also screwing up my sleep schedule, which causes problems.)

anyway, goals for the rest of the week:

get off campus to get at least 6-7 convos, and chat with ne female i can while on campus (hoping to get more then 10)

study more efficiently, leaving more free time

go to bed earlier

smile and say hey to every girl that i walk past

use my damn car to get some girls, ill post some pics of it down the road when i have time.
 

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got a pic of yourself roots?

Your bootycamp :) is going really well comparing to mine. I'm not that good looking so that might be why.
 

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im fairly paranoid about posting my picture on this website, worried that some1 i know secretly comes here and will use that fact to destroy my social life! i have a couple decent pictures tho, so ill post a few up for a couple weeks.

with that said, i have no idea where this week has gone. the last few days have just sorta flown by, and the sad thing is i havent been able to accomplish anything since i wasted so much time. thankfully tomorrow is friday n ill have pretty much all day to go out, so we'll go from there.

david90
got a pic of yourself roots?
Your bootycamp is going really well comparing to mine. I'm not that good looking so that might be why.
like i said ill get some pics up, but in all honestly i dont think im that attractive. i work my butt off to make sure i look the best that i can through weight training, good hygiene and overall body language, but im definetely no brad pitts. to quote usher, being "sexy" isnt about how you look, its how you carry yourself. i make the best with what i got, n thankfully a good percentage of woman think im at least cute. regardless of your looks, the things you should be focusing on is how your carrying yourself. if your insecure about anything, itl probably show! get cleaned up, get in shape, slap on some new clothes, walk around and feel like ur the man, because u are. pook nailed some awesome points, think your the prize. im all about self-imrovement, so why not become the damn prize? get rid of that negative attitude, and keep goin in the bootcamp man.

anyway, looks like week 3's gunna be extended til i get enough convos down, so 2morrow ill get as many as i can

goals and areas for improvement:

manage time better
no wasting time on computer (other then for studying or updating bc)
no porn or playing with myself til i get some action (hows that for motivation)
use every waking second to do osmething productive with my life, be it school work, self-improevment or whatever, lifes to short to waste


lifting weights has been great, n ive been sleeping like i should be. though i havent been going out of my way to approach females, i have been talking to everyone around me during my regular day. its had a huge impact on my daily life, its more entertianing, im smiling, laughing, making other people laugh more. and girls notice when ur talking to everyone and not just them, now all i gotta do is start approachin some females :rolleyes: .
 

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ahh, breakdancing. i got into that for a few months a couple years ago, but it wasnt my thing. personally i didnt enjoy it that much, im not one to do something for just the glory and the attention, especially when its something that takes up a lot of time and effort. but thx for the tip! dancing IS an important skill, someitme this summer i wanna take some salsa lessons, but i dont have enough time at the moment (or the $)

anyway, today was pretty good as far as the bootcamp goes. i got 3 convos and a couple semi's. it all starts with the eyecontact, smile, and just saying hi.

with the last girl it was a lil harder to keep up a convo, i talked half the time, she wasnt as open as most people are. but thats alright, cant expect every1 to be friendly towards strangers. one of my semis was a girl introducing herself to me, we have this big lounge place in the center of campus where people can just hang out, watch tv, play some pool. i was attempting to play a game with one of my female friends, but she had to take off halfway, which worked out perfectly since this blonde girl was playing by herself. a few seconds after my friend left she asked if i wanted to play, then started asking me questions. i shifted it back towards her, it was almost interesting. another vegetarian, so that was a great start. she was extremely tall for a girl tho, she said she was 6'1, which i didnt believe since i thought i was 6'0 and i was taller, but either way, very tall girl.

kept up the eye-contact smile thing, n i chatted with as many people as i could throughout my day. ran into an engineer so i asked him a lil about the career, im still not 100% sure if thats what i wanna do, but i still have some time to think about it.

my campus is blessed with a 70% female population, and on average id say 1/4 of them are attractive. this is only my freshman year in college, i still have 3 more then probably another few years if i wanna get a masters in engineering. this gives me a LOT of opportunities to improve my game and have a lot of fun along the way. ive only gotten about 5 convos so far, so im gunna extend week 3 til mon-tues, ill close whenever i feel like i established enough rapport, then once wed. hits ill just go for #'s, get my rejection callous built up.
 

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alright, quick update. been consumed with studying the past couple days, but i got 1 convo today with a 9.5. i couldnt believe how gorgeous she was, but unfortunetely only a couple min into the convo i had 2 leave n i didnt have the nerve to # close. *kicks self*. AHHHHHHHHHH, oh well, next week we go for some rejections and # closes. 3 more convos, week 4 starts wed.
 

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week 3 completed

week 3 is over, had pretty good success approaching girls i didnt know. i really need to work on getting more rapport, so week 4 should prove to be more of a learning experience. whether or not i think im at a point where i # close ill just go for it, one of the goals is to get 10 rejections. still nowhere close ot being perfect tho, a few girls made comments to me either about my car or something else. couple girls were like "hey mercedes!" but were kinda far off so i just laughed n walked on. really need to learn how 2 use car to pick up chicks.

today was interesting, i somehow ended up in a supply closet/room with this 7.8 chick. she was like "were in a supply room... all alone." i figured if this is nething like porn movies id be having fun in no time, but too bad real life isnt that much fun YET. my attempts at seducing a girl i barely knew didnt work so well. shes only had 1 bf before and shes never even kissed a guy. i was gunna ask for her number (this was earlier) but she would not shut up about how she doesnt want a bf or even a fling or dating, i tried reasoning that she just hasnt been with the right guy, but nothing seemed to register with her. just nexted her for the moment, but any advice on how to deal with girls who swear off dating? i think its a lost cause, but advice would be appreciated.

anyway, i injured my knee yesterday so walking isnt the best thing for me, i dunno how in hell that happened. legs were getting sore from running so much and the pain in my knee gradually increased, and when i got back i couldnt even bend it. its a little better today, but i had a slight limp (sexy eh?). i can take a couple days off and rest it, but other then that i cant afford to stop. actually got a convo today because of my sexy limp, girl commented on it. im stubborn and refuse to go to the doctors, she agreed. we both reasoned if all their gunna say is ice it and rest for a few weeks, why bother going? sitting around for a month is not an option. stubborn and being obsessive are some negative traits i have, so its nice to meet people with the same problems.

other areas of improvement:

continue meeting new people. i think i found a decent wingman, e-mailed him to see if its something he wants 2 do, and most likely it will be. i think this should be part of the bootcamp, going otu with a wingman to just approach for a few hours straight every week would be awesome practice. and with some1 there, its that extra little push not to choke. now, ideally this can be accomplished alone, but if i were able to just approach for hours by myself with no problem i wouldnt be posting a bootcamp

get more sleep: im always way too tired, still procrastinating and staying up late.

goals for week 4:

go to sleep at 10 no matter what if im just in my dorm

up my calorie intake, i gave up my vegetarian way of life. my knee never had problems like this when i ate meat, so thats a good excuse to start up again. itl be easier to put on some weight now that i can eat my favorite food group

accomplish week 4 goals of course

go out with wingman at least once, then solo once i get some practice

take control of life, im still wasting way too many days.
 

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week 4

alright, 3 chokes today. i even chocked saying hey to this hb9, and she was soo my type too. since my goal is a # close now, my mind just started to go on and on. really need to apply the 3 second rule tomorrow.

was browsin through the hs section of the board and found a nice post by Sammo

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69083


i feel like the person described in the intro. right now im just takin it easy, slowly improving one thing at a time. so ya, read his article n thats pretty much where im at, so heres a list of reformulated goals:

Physical health:

Stick to workout consistently for 3 months
Stick to eating plan for 2 months
Start tanning consistenly once a week for 2 months
Don't masturbate for 12 weeks

Girls:

Make eye contact with 5000 girls - 1 year
Approach 1000 girls - 6 months

Academic

Revise every day after school consistently until the end of school
Do assignment as soon as they are given to you
Take assignments seriously, no more cramming the night before, staying up late

Money:

Double money i have in my account (currently i have lil over 3k saved)
get a job, got a summer job lined up that pays about 10$ an hour

Passion:

Already have a passion, but i wanna try new things. so by end of this semester, have another passion thats completely different from nething else im doing

dont be overly obsessive, allow body enough time to heal and recover


like when i cut meat out of my diet, i just went cold turkey instead of gradually going down. i knew that if i just gradually cut down id never stop, so gotta take that mindset. i should stay up studying tonight but sleep is important, so ill just have to make it up in the morning.


week 4 stats
approaches: 0
rejections: 0
#'s: 0
chokes: 3
 
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quick update... havent had time 2 do bootcamp. i was going on a few day snowboarding trip with a friend and a couple girls, but my friend ran a stop sign he didnt see n we got t-boned by an SUV on the drivers side. we were knocked into a fence n a wooden post speared the windshield n stopped 3 inches from my face. the suv flipped and the car was basically totaled. ill spare the rest of the details, it was pretty much a horrible accident. my friend was airlifted to a hospital, but fortunetely hes alive. im still pretty banged up n ill need a brace n crutches for a couple weeks, so im taking a break from this. im not quitting the bc or nething, just as u can probably guess i have other things 2 worry about right now. ill plan to resume march 1st, assuming nothing changes.
 

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alright, after barely escaping death i return stronger then ever! seriously, almost dieing fixed my sleeping patterns since i was robbed of energy and ive been lifting harder then b4 to get my strength back and now im slightly stronger

anyway, now that im mobile, i have energy and im not grumpy its time to pick the bc up again. ive been doing some reading with my time off, since i havent been able to do much. learned some things, and was reminded of a lot of others, so at least i didnt waste too much time on my computer. my friends recovering too, just he doesnt remember nething until a week b4 the accident, but at least everything else is normal? all in all we were all pretty lucky.

recent djing attempts: these 3 asian girls, all at least a 7 were tagging along with some friends of mine. the one i wanted was gorgeous, i talked with her n lightly flirted, i would have taken off my shirt since that tends to help (we were playing ultimate frisbee n it was reasonably sunny) but i still have some nasty bruises on my body so that can wait. found out shes actually dating one of the guys there, cant believe i was flirting with her in front of her bf! i mean, i know the guy pretty well, but thats his fault for not mentioning this to me. in my experience most asian girls think im attractive, i dunno why but im not complaining. the other 2 were very friendly towards me, they were both cute i guess, one more then the other, but only 1 was single and i wasnt attracted ot her enough to # close. (i wanted the first girl more)

now, other then that, i havent been doing that much "macking". its taken a lot of effort just to get back to 100% and keep up with my classes. im out of practice so the next couple days will be my rehibilitation for the bootcamp, then its off to week 4! i had a perfect opportunity to number close and i was going 2 until some1 mentioned that she was dating my friend, but it was good practice. i have morals against stealing my friends girls, but if they have a fight because she was flirting with me and break up, who am i to complain? that gives me a green light and i wont feel guilty ;)
 

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week 4 begins

honestly ive never really made a cold approach, ive had 9 gf's in my life and 2 "flings", all of which either the girls initially approached me or i was around them enough to where i naturally got to know them. today i was sitting around thinking how im gunna do this, but then i re-read week 4, and were not shooting for 10 numbers, were going for 10 rejections. i read it again, and suddenly a load was taken off my shoulders. hell, that cant be too hard, so that got me off my ass and i went to barnes n noble (the borders of where i am), and walked around, actually looked at some books til i found a cute girl. made eye-contact, smiled, she did the same, then i went from there. asked her about a couple books, what she thought, convo branched. now my timing was probably WAAAAAAY off, but i decided it was time to bail so i used the line "anyway, i need to get going, you should let me give you a call sometime. whats your number?"

looking back, i played my cards wrong. she didnt know i was hitting on her, thats something i need to work on. but all in all i was happy, i was fine til the end (composer wise), she gave some girl bs excuse, so i just said nice meeting u and left. too bad my face turned bright red, im pretty white right now since the sun hasnt returned and i knew that which only made it worse. made me wanna go tanning a few times, which i plan on doing.

so theres my first approach, still got a long way to go but live and learn.

at my job i started working sat mornings from 8-12, which i was dreading but i get to work right by this 23 year old romanian girl. dont plan on # closing on her since i work with her and im 5 years younger, but it was good practice to chat with her.

tomorrows tuesday n i have the most freetime then so planning on going to as many spots as possible. im behind in a couple classes but ill still have a good 3-4 hours. tip to anyone in this stage of the bc, when your goin out to approach for the first couple times, make sure u look ur best, smell ur best and overall feel ur best. every little boost of confidence will help slightly. and if ur like me, u need every little boost u can get. and always try to look your best, i dunno why but everytime i look like crap or i figure there wont be any decent chicks, they just show up. its like a curse


quote from the week (from Avatars post about rejection)

"If you are not getting rejected every single day of your life, you are not getting as much as you could out of life."



other areas of improvement for week 4:

dont get on computer unless to update bc, and even then only update twice a week. even for hw(i get distracted easily)

get work/studying done as soon as possible to increase free time

get a couple shades tanner

new spring attire, weathers in the upper 60s lower 70s now which is pretty warm for march where i am


so, in keeping with my stay off comp resolve, my next post will be march 12.
 

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been an interesting week. Ive been spending a lot more time around campus. thursday night i hung out in this girls dorm til like 1 am, had a lil OC marathon. she had her roommate n a couple friends there, they were all at least cute, one was gorgeous. i spent time talking to all of them, but i really only had my sights on one girl. oh, and i had a friend with me, he was a junior. awesome wingman, helped me out a bunch.

came out with a number, which was easy since i spent a good chunk of time there. afterwards, i thought id call her sat. to see if she wanted to grab some dinner. we agreed to meet at applebees at 7, so i go there, and im looking around for a girl sitting by herself (she was already there.) i cant find her, so i call her back n say i cant see her. she stands up, waves n is like "i can see you!!" i look over, and she brought a couple friends. not that i would mind being around more women, but its generally not a good thing when a girl brings some friends on a "date." :rolleyes: . theres an ice-skating rink like 15 min from campus, so i think i need to brainstorm more action-dates at first.

the evening was fun tho, she was extremely flirty and her friends were cool. i ended up talking to one of her friends later and she said she didnt know it was a date, just thought it was to hang out like thurs night. she seems to have some IL, so ill give her a couple more tries, if not ill next. i think ill still hang out with her once in a wihle tho, its always good to have some female allies. especially when the dorms at my college go male/female/male ect. by floor, so if i have scattered female friends that gives me an excuse ot go hang out in the girls wings.

going to watch a rugby match today, so ill definetely be looking for some # closes there. other then that didnt get much done this week, so im still in week 4. ive noticed that my body is starting to improve, ive gained a couple pounds and my abs are better then ever.
 

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Re: week 4

Originally posted by noots

Don't masturbate for 12 weeks

Girls:

Make eye contact with 5000 girls - 1 year
Approach 1000 girls - 6 months

i think cut those things out.
u can easily be a dj with masturbating.. lol.. + then u'll start busting by kissing a girl.

they eye contact thing, ur going to count? sounds crazy.
+ with those goals, u'll be approaching 2 out of every 5 girls u make eye contact with, u'd very quickly have 500 numbers, 495 numbers u can't do anythign with due to lack of time.
 

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ya, didnt really think about it that much quest, but it was good to set some high goals :D
 

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as scary as this may seem, i haven't been waiting here all day to reply..... i swear it!

definently good to aim high. and u are aiming high already.

your goals are very similar to mine. i just wish i had this mind state a few years ago..

but i'm 21.. its not exactly too late for me :)
 

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just an update. this past week ive gone through a transformation, not how i act (altho thats improved a lot) but how i view women. i used to think that women were special, deserved to be treated well, all that nice guy garbage. this was a couple years ago, and ive ostracized most of that attitude, but the nice guy inside me has been around for so long its hard to completely shake off. im still way too timid for my own good, but with weight lifting, doing this bootcamp and being more outgoing, thats changing for the better. its actually ironic, i was more of a dj when i was little. i didnt care what ne1 else thought of me, i simply did what i wanted, i was an impulsive little brat who just wanted to have fun. and guess what, a lot of girls had crushes on me. (pimpin elementary school :cool: ). well, as i got older, i started to care what people thougth about me, so my impulsive ideas or comments didnt exactly flare up as much, until they all but dissapeared. my true self that just enjoyed life, without a care in the world began to die. now im bringing that back, and its challenging. sometimes my voice is weak when i say hi because subconsciously im not there yet, and every so often ill have moments of weakness, but im slowly getting better.

now, back to my change in attitude. as ive been hanging around with more females, ive noticed that they dont deserve to be raised on pedestals, they dont deserve anything. it just hit me how dirty and filthy girls are deep down, i used to think u had to get a girl to trust u, show that u wanted soemthing more from her then just sex before shed spread her legs. from hushed girl talk about what a female did with her bf to talking about some guys $#&% size, there no better then us. in fact i think their worse, they preach that guys are "disgusting" and that they want a nice guy to take care of them who keeps his hands to himself. the media does that also, as im sure uve all seen in movies, tv or w/e. right now i have absolutely no respect for women, with some exceptions of course. well, i shoudlnt say that. but i have a lot less respect, n i no longer view them as equals. now their more entertainment, beings i go to when i wanna have fun. now i talk about sex almost everyday, stuff i normally would have never said. and u know what? it hasnt been a disaster, no1's called me on it, its just like any other conversation. girls like sex, think about it, and IMO can be more shallow then most guys. ive accepted this, and so should every other guy. dont think ur male impulses are "evil", if a girl says that call her on it. ignore the media, just listen to what ur hormones are screaming.

bootcamp efforts today:

saw a cute brunette walking in the same direction as me, she looked at me, i smiled, said hey n tried talking to her but she only gave one word responses n wasnt very friendly so i moved on. lightly flirting with some girls in the majority of my classes just for my own entertainment. one of my chick friends tried telling me that its bad to lead a girl on like that, she could end up getting hurt. do i care? seriously? im still a decent guy, dont get me wrong, but come on. right now im just gunna focus on having fun. still need to pick up in this area...

other areas:

-weight training is going well. got my max bench to 20 pound over my body weight, which is around 190 (bench). not too impressive, but considering how i struggled with a set of 135 when i first started thats pretty good. ive gained a couple more pounds, now im at 173.5. still gotta hit like 185, but ill get there gradually. im taking advantage of eating better meals, there are various places to get food on campus but the main one is basically all u can eat, which is great for me since im trying to bulk up a little.

-looking for a place where i can go to cheap yoga classes, and potentially salsa lessons. next year i wanna take a salsa class for a pe credit, but thats next year. i need to start expanding what i do for recreation, the more actice i am the more people i can potentially meet.

-got a new cell phone, one that works and gets good reception, sounds clear, and has a picture phone! (ive had a super old nokia for a looooong time). ive been calling people more often, just to catch up, n as a result have been going out more from invites.

thats about it for now, ill post again in a few days unless i somehow manage a successful number close tonight. still have a long ways to go, but its nice to see some areas of my life picking up.
 

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Sweet stuff man.

Sweet stuff. You sound almost just like me in Goals and such.

drink more water: water = healthy

That one had me busting up but it is sooo true lol. I keep a 1 gal jug near my desk at all times and down at least 2 a week.

As for the other goals Im pretty much right there with ya. I just need to get off my lazy ass and get out more, to the gym, bookstore, ect. Time in front of the computer is time ill never have back to do something productive with.
I work most days im not in school (manual labor. Concrete) so its kinda hard to get out after work but if i did the same and try to get my sleep i might be more awake to start talking like a alive person instead of a zombie to people. Ill be sure to keep reading on. Keep it up.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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