"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Non-Lay Report:Beware the dangers of POF

Stagger Lee

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Solomon said:
POF goes in cycles but any guy whose main source is POF is really limiting his options. It baffles me how many guys refuse to approach women in real life and just do online dating. In my opinon those guys are really shooting themselves in the foot. Sure you save a lot of money talking to sloots at home but in real life you will always find higher caliber of chicks even at bars, let me explain. There are bars/restaurant/lounges that cater to a certain demographic where you can meet a plethora of attractive women. Hell I've come to the conclusion that the bar scene is far better then POF. Sure you have to work harder but at the bar scene at least you know what the girl looks like when you take her home.

Online dating IMO is a waste of time if you your not good looking or the women in your area aren't giving you play
Yeah I know and agree. Online dating has always only been a small supplement to my irl pick up. Like making plans on a Sunday or Monday with a girl from online. It never was much good. But now with my age around the mid 30's, online sites only display women around 30 so it is gotten even worse.

All the bars in my city with attractive girls are early 20's. I'm starting to look "30 something" and am losing the drive to go out and do approaches. Sometimes during in every day like shopping I'll see attractive women and sometimes I'll get eye contact, proximity and occasionally a smile. I'd like to do these public "day time" approaches, get their numbers and try to plan a meet up. But I haven't really done day game approaches in years and have been focusing on night game bars. The girls at the bars I go to are better looking and better "quality" than online, but as of late it has been very unproductive.

For the past couple of years and being into my 30's, I've been realizing I need to reinvent my game. Online dating isn't the answer. I'm not really sure there is an answer though.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Stagger Lee said:
Yeah I know and agree. Online dating has always only been a small supplement to my irl pick up. Like making plans on a Sunday or Monday with a girl from online. It never was much good. But now with my age around the mid 30's, online sites only display women around 30 so it is gotten even worse.

All the bars in my city with attractive girls are early 20's. I'm starting to look "30 something" and am losing the drive to go out and do approaches. Sometimes during in every day like shopping I'll see attractive women and sometimes I'll get eye contact, proximity and occasionally a smile. I'd like to do these public "day time" approaches, get their numbers and try to plan a meet up. But I haven't really done day game approaches in years and have been focusing on night game bars. The girls at the bars I go to are better looking and better "quality" than online, but as of late it has been very unproductive.

For the past couple of years and being into my 30's, I've been realizing I need to reinvent my game. Online dating isn't the answer. I'm not really sure there is an answer though.
I'm almost 30 as well. The only advice I can give is maybe looking into a meetup group or social club like dancing. I'm with you on that "drive". I literally lost my "drive" after 4 years of approaching 4,000 plus women. However I realize whenever I just fully do online dating my flake rate goes up like crazy and the quality of women is ass.
 

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HedoRick said:
If they are paying, they are at least somewhat serious about meeting someone.
The problem with that is I've found the women on match.com are less likely to engage in casual sex. Women who are dropping $30 a month generally want to meet somewhat quality dudes for that money. I think there are fewer trashy sluts looking for d*ck on match, and that's disappointing :yes:
 

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I want to see the pictures of these hot chicks you guys are banging. Because everytime someone post a pic of a hit girl she is average at best
 
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