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Nofap: Why it works

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And that’s fine, at least you have real world experience with it. But couple questions:

Are you fapping while watching porn? That’s the real enemy here. Fapping without it in moderation will not hurt you.
That last day-fap in May was not porn but a mental fantasy about seeing an escort just before waking up. I don't watch porn to fap, but I might look at escort pics on an adult classified.

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Also if you fap with porn, how often would you say you do it within the last few years? Everyday? Once a week?
Again, I don't really look at porn that much to fap directly. If I look at porn then I'd jump to an escort site and finish with an escort ad posted on the site. With an escort site, the tangibility of potentially calling up an escort and booking an appointment creates a short-circuit arousal in itself to start fapping.

In worst case, I'll go on an escort page every day and jack off to a different escort each time. So like once a day visit an escort thing. Now I've abstained away from all that. But I'm not seeing any particular practical benefits from abstaining from fapping at escort pics/ads, apart from doing the right thing morally.
 

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That last day-fap in May was not porn but a mental fantasy about seeing an escort just before waking up. I don't watch porn to fap, but I might look at escort pics on an adult classified.



Again, I don't really look at porn that much to fap directly. If I look at porn then I'd jump to an escort site and finish with an escort ad posted on the site. With an escort site, the tangibility of potentially calling up an escort and booking an appointment creates a short-circuit arousal in itself to start fapping.

In worst case, I'll go on an escort page every day and jack off to a different escort each time. So like once a day visit an escort thing. Now I've abstained away from all that. But I'm not seeing any particular practical benefits from abstaining from fapping at escort pics/ads, apart from doing the right thing morally.
Yea so you won’t really see much difference. It’ll mostly help the people who are watching porn and fapping at the same time.

The escort page thing is a slippery slope into it but you seem to have some sort of boundaries with it.

I’d say just don’t escalate much further.
 

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Yea so you won’t really see much difference. It’ll mostly help the people who are watching porn and fapping at the same time.

The escort page thing is a slippery slope into it but you seem to have some sort of boundaries with it.

I’d say just don’t escalate much further.
It's still jagging off and not fvcking.
 

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You have people for and people against this nofap bull. Seems pretty steadfast on both sides. Just call a stalemate. Either side will not be able to convince the other to join their team. Neither is wrong, nor are they right. Each has their own opinions.
 

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It is difficult to discuss the nofap thing in the abstract because it is more of a practical matter. What becomes merely a bad habit for many, one that promises much - free momentary bliss - can degenerate into an addiction, where the cost is your life... or the freedom and quality of it.

In the abstract, all should agree on the potential hazard of high speed pornography on tap 24/ 7. In practicality, there will be a significant percentage of porn users that have more problem with it than others.... and I'd hazard a guess that that percentage is higher than most people are ready to admit.
 

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Allot of taking out of context from op's origional post, but I suppose op could have worded a more accurate title. There is a HUGE difference, between masturbating and masturbating to internet pixel porn. There's also a HUGE difference in masturbating to still, vhs and DVD porn vs internet pixel porn. There is plenty of scientific study and correlation easily found out there if one wanted to educate themselves on the issue. Googling porn and plasticity and the website "yourbrainonporn" is a good start. I'm with op on this one and agree with @mrgoodstuff as well, masturbating to porn is simulated masculinity.
 

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Right...and there is absolutely no observable benefits from any no-fap policy since over a period of time that I've actually stopped fapping.
Depression and despair seem to be a major factor for the use of pornography by many... because porn serves to obliterate, all too momentarily, the consciousness of these. The remedy of depression and despair is a capability for joy. When someone overcomes an addiction, they no longer need to escape from the misery of their state. For those that recover from addiction, there is a restoration of their natural state, which takes pleasure in the simplest things... and there is nothing simpler than just being. Drugs are about the obliteration of our being.
 

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Absolutely. I think @Spaz just doesn’t get the fact that he’s been lied to his whole life and porn really is a drug that has consequences that are very hard to see until you truly realize it and see it firsthand.

It’s similar to bluepillers being smacked across the face with redpill knowledge. They are like shyt my entire reality was wrong.

I think Spaz is just in the anger phase because he wants to keep his porn habit :p
Delusions.

Men who regularly gets laid, has a girlfriend, has high libido masterbates.

Ask around.

Men who has nofap fantasies, has no girlfriend, seldom gets laid, has low libido.

Ask around.
 

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Getting compulsive masturbation under control is all about self-improvement. Let's face it, playing with your own willy is pretty pathetic behavior for a DJ to indulge in.

Think of a man you admire. Can you also picture him as a wanker?

Now if you keep coming back to science ad nauseam, then you simply have no inner ethical life going for you... that part which is always looking for self-improvement, freedom, and self-determination. It will be hollowed out and bankrupt... and will no doubt want to escape the consciousness of its own misery by annihilating itself with porn. Porn is consumption and nihilism... it consumes the self.
Hiding behind a moral high ground is useless when u hv ED, no girlfriend, basically no life, obese, on medication and gets no pvssy.

All this nice guy act is just an act.
 

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Delusions.

Men who regularly gets laid, has a girlfriend, has high libido masterbates.

Ask around.

Men who has nofap fantasies, has no girlfriend, seldom gets laid, has low libido.

Ask around.
Like I said for fifteen years straight my wives and gf's would fvck me when I'd like. It was almost daily. They had tight bodies and they liked me alot. So porn was boring in comparison. I had zero reason to jagging off because I could get head or puzzy instead.
 

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Depression and despair seem to be a major factor for the use of pornography by many... because porn serves to obliterate, all too momentarily, the consciousness of these. The remedy of depression and despair is a capability for joy. When someone overcomes an addiction, they no longer need to escape from the misery of their state. For those that recover from addiction, there is a restoration of their natural state, which takes pleasure in the simplest things... and there is nothing simpler than just being. Drugs are about the obliteration of our being.
Alcohol is a bytch. A lie a life stealer.
 

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You have people for and people against this nofap bull. Seems pretty steadfast on both sides. Just call a stalemate. Either side will not be able to convince the other to join their team. Neither is wrong, nor are they right. Each has their own opinions.
If you have no pvssy source fapping is giving in to weakness. It'll rewire the brain to equate sexual pleasure with jagging off, thus you lose the desire for intercourse.
 

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Right...and there is absolutely no observable benefits from any no-fap policy since over a period of time that I've actually stopped fapping.
For me I found I started flirting with chicks and getting looks.

Plus in sexual relationship excess fapping killed our sexual intensity and dampened my desire for her.
 

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For me I found I started flirting with chicks and getting looks.

Plus in sexual relationship excess fapping killed our sexual intensity and dampened my desire for her.
Then it works for you. That is YOUR experience, not mine, and many others who may have tried this. This is where things start getting a bit silly on here because you can't just make a bunch of pseudo-scientific claims based on something that is entirely subjective and varies from individual to individual. I find I get more flirtatious or looks when I look at porn/escorts whatever and fap rather than the other way around because I start giving off a more sexual vibe rather than an asexual vibe. Again, different experiences with different people.
 

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Allot of taking out of context from op's origional post, but I suppose op could have worded a more accurate title. There is a HUGE difference, between masturbating and masturbating to internet pixel porn. There's also a HUGE difference in masturbating to still, vhs and DVD porn vs internet pixel porn. There is plenty of scientific study and correlation easily found out there if one wanted to educate themselves on the issue. Googling porn and plasticity and the website "yourbrainonporn" is a good start. I'm with op on this one and agree with @mrgoodstuff as well, masturbating to porn is simulated masculinity.
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Then it works for you. That is YOUR experience, not mine, and many others who may have tried this. This is where things start getting a bit silly on here because you can't just make a bunch of pseudo-scientific claims based on something that is entirely subjective and varies from individual to individual. I find I get more flirtatious or looks when I look at porn/escorts whatever and fap rather than the other way around because I start giving off a more sexual vibe rather than an asexual vibe. Again, different experiences with different people.
I agree 100%. We are wired different. See how it works for you. Asexual vibe is a no go.
 

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For me I found I started flirting with chicks and getting looks.

Plus in sexual relationship excess fapping killed our sexual intensity and dampened my desire for her.
It's ur low libido.

Don't blame it on fapping.

I and other motherfvckers who regularly fvck, hv a steady girlfriend, with plates - masterbates. Fact.

I don't even need porn 2 masterbate.

As for u guys who needs porn 2 hv some sensation down there, u r in some serious ****hole.
 

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It's ur low libido.

Don't blame it on fapping.

I and other motherfvckers who regularly fvck, hv a steady girlfriend, with plates - masterbates. Fact.

I don't even need porn 2 masterbate.

As for u guys who needs porn 2 hv some sensation down there, u r in some serious ****hole.
I don't have a low libido. I'm telling the truth how it works for me.
 
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