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No porn and no fap is good. You will be horny and approach a lot. Porn is worse than fap. It is best to channel the no porn and no fap energy into getting laid and get laid regularly. If you are getting laid regularly, there's no need for porn and fap.
 

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I did a 30 day no fap last year in a bid to develop some (any) enthusiasm to approach women.
It never made much difference to be honest. I met my soon to be ex wife for a while this afternoon
and in general conversation about my recent exploits on dating sites I told her that despite chatting
to a few women I've matched with on Tin-bin I feel like I'm acting out the part of an interested male,
my heart really isn't in it and I couldn't care less if I never hear from them again as long as I live.
Her reply - "Well you don't like women and you don't like sex." I think I may have to just delete these
apps and consider a solitary existence. It's a shame as I have no problem turning heads and see
'choosing signals' all the time. I just can't get excited about it all, this Aspergers is a curse. I really crave
company but not intimacy or conquest. Time to get a dog I think.
 

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my LeRoy, is now considerably bigger than it has been for the last 10 years.

I get morning wood regularly.

I sleep better..
Ah yes more anecdotal Evidence, what other "superpowers" have you gotten? Are women now magically attracted to you?

No porn and no fap is good. You will be horny and approach a lot. Porn is worse than fap. It is best to channel the no porn and no fap energy into getting laid and get laid regularly. If you are getting laid regularly, there's no need for porn and fap.
Nofap will have the opposite effect after the first week, it actually lowers your libido significantly. You either use it or lose it. Yes porn is bad, but it's not hard to fap without Porn.

ve matched with on Tin-bin I feel like I'm acting out the part of an interested male,
my heart really isn't in it and I couldn't care less if I never hear from them again as long as I live.
Her reply -
Well there is your problem, your looking in the wrong place. It's like going fishing near a sewage plant, sure you will catch something but it won't be very good or healthy.
 

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Funny that you would bring this topic up. After reading about this for a while, I decided to 'challenge myself.' An ex sent me some provocative photos a few days ago and despite her craziness, she sure looked good (as all the crazies all seem to) ... and after her photos, I lost the personal challenge (lasted 11 days).
 

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Alright I’m gonna go off on everyone here:
Read up on Nofap. It's mostly pseudo broscience Youtuber bullsh!t with little to no scientific evidence supporting its purported benefits. The only study suggesting such was an experiment done in China where there was a significant spike in testosterone levels when going a week without masturbating, after which testosterone levels then returned to normal.


Routine ejaculation has actual, proven benefits for prostate health and overall well-being. Long-term abstinence is actually linked to decreased testosterone.

Excessive masturbation, especially to porn, can be harmful. Short periods of Nofap (4-7 days) can provide short-term benefits, but going a year? Scientific evidence suggests it will do more harm than good. Relieving a natural urge is perfectly natural and healthy. Not relieving it is unnatural and unhealthy. You won't hold in your sh!t for more than a week, right?
Nofappers use anecdotal evidence to fuel their confirmation bias on Nofap, there is not a single real study that shows any benefit to nofap.

Masturbation is perfectly healthy and several real scientific studies show that it reduces stress and lowers tour chance if prostate cancer.
This is extremely misleading. There’s just not enough research on it; that doesn’t mean there isn’t and truth to it though. Fact is, there are far too many anecdotes to just throw this concept away, even on here.
For instance, in long-term monogamous relationships, where the sex has naturally grown stale or dried up, therapists will actually recommend the couple watch some porn together to liven things back up.
Bro, relationship therapists are the WORST people you can take advice from. Everything they say and do come from a gynocnetric lens, it’ll **** up your relationship more than anything. There’s even stories about where women have trained men to become cucks so that they can cheat and the dude likes it. Are you a degenerate? Because that **** is an abomination. Foh.
Yes because it completly kills your sex drive/libido.
This is also misleading. It’s not that nofap itself kills your sex drive, but rather thean himself killing himself killing it so that he is able to do nofap. This is extreme too, but you’re getting the nuances wrong and inverting the cause & effect.
Most of regular pornos are legit. Heck I learned all of the poses to do with girls through porn.
Yeah this is fair, I learned a lot through porn too lmao but the problem is being able to moderate it; you just can’t. Some people have the self control, but in our day & age with how society has become, people are nurtured to be unable to have that self-control. Imagination is better than porn bc at least it works your brain more and it’s actually you in your mind rather than someone else, but that’s kinda hard sometimes lol.
Nofap will have the opposite effect after the first week, it actually lowers your libido significantly.
Bull****. I went 11 days once and I swear to God I was quite literally seeing red. Each day got harder and harder, especially after day 7. The exact OPPOSITE happened to my libido lmao you’re talking out of your ass too. I also notice that I don’t sleep as good when I jerk it and that my Johnson is bigger and harder when I do nofap too lol so just because you don’t have the balls to try it doesn’t mean there aren’t some people who see benefits.
 

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I did a 30 day no fap last year in a bid to develop some (any) enthusiasm to approach women.
It never made much difference to be honest. I met my soon to be ex wife for a while this afternoon
and in general conversation about my recent exploits on dating sites I told her that despite chatting
to a few women I've matched with on Tin-bin I feel like I'm acting out the part of an interested male,
my heart really isn't in it and I couldn't care less if I never hear from them again as long as I live.
Her reply - "Well you don't like women and you don't like sex." I think I may have to just delete these
apps and consider a solitary existence. It's a shame as I have no problem turning heads and see
'choosing signals' all the time. I just can't get excited about it all, this Aspergers is a curse. I really crave
company but not intimacy or conquest. Time to get a dog I think.
Why don’t you try putting yourself in the mindset of someone who does want sex then? Like look at how other men act, see how they desire women, understand how they feel, and imagine yourself as that person to feel what they’re going through. Then you know what it is that they feel and can just reimagine it yourself to make yourself that way.
 

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This is extremely misleading. There’s just not enough research on it; that doesn’t mean there isn’t and truth to it though. Fact is, there are far too many anecdotes to just throw this concept away, even on here.
What's extremely misleading is all the "anecdotes" on the internet supporting a clear confirmation bias in favor of what is scientifically indicated to be a placebo effect. There is no credible research suggesting any health benefits whatsoever to long-term abstinence from masturbation. But hey, if it makes you think you're somehow optimizing yourself, and that leads to actual self-optimization, do it. If taking a sugar pill makes you think you're happier, and you're happier because of it, keep taking the sugar pills. By all means.

Bro, relationship therapists are the WORST people you can take advice from. Everything they say and do come from a gynocnetric lens, it’ll **** up your relationship more than anything. There’s even stories about where women have trained men to become cucks so that they can cheat and the dude likes it. Are you a degenerate? Because that **** is an abomination. Foh.
**yawn** all you read was "relationship therapist" and you're literally too fvcking stupid to say anything other than "gynocentric" "cuck" "beta b!tch" blah blah etc. without even considering the context of a long-term marriage.

Quit being a poser. No one buys it.

And don't try to argue with me. I'm smarter than you.
 

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Why don’t you try putting yourself in the mindset of someone who does want sex then? Like look at how other men act, see how they desire women, understand how they feel, and imagine yourself as that person to feel what they’re going through. Then you know what it is that they feel and can just reimagine it yourself to make yourself that way.
This had occurred to me, truth is it's been nearly two years since I last had sex. I feel like I should be looking
for it but genuinely find the whole female/male dynamic so bewildering that on Jan 1st this year I deleted the 20
matches I'd harvested on Tinder because I truly struggle with the whole thing. I'm on here to try and learn a
different way to behave, but I'm really struggling with motivation to even attempt. I now work in an environment
with a fair quantity of females and indeed can see things about them I find attractive but can't even consider any
kind of interaction that isn't purely platonic. They laugh at my jokes when we get to converse and clearly aren't repelled
by me, I get little waves from them when I catch their eye (it's an Amazon warehouse) and despite the masks we have to
wear I can see that they have smiling eyes, some of these girls are literally half my age too. I just smile back (beneath my
mask) and get back to work. I just don't feel any drive to escalate whatsoever which is why I tried a month of no-fap.

It reminds me of the Joker quote from that Batman movie -
“Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! ”
 

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What's extremely misleading is all the "anecdotes" on the internet supporting a clear confirmation bias in favor of what is scientifically indicated to be a placebo effect. There is no credible research suggesting any health benefits whatsoever to long-term abstinence from masturbation. But hey, if it makes you think you're somehow optimizing yourself, and that leads to actual self-optimization, do it. If taking a sugar pill makes you think you're happier, and you're happier because of it, keep taking the sugar pills. By all means.
You clearly have reading comprehension issues.

Not having enough research is NOT the same thing as having research that says it’s a placebo. You can’t say that there isn’t any credible research suggesting health benefits because there isn’t any research to say that there aren’t health benefits either. There’s just not much data on it except for that one small study that showed there was an increase in testosterone.
**yawn** all you read was "relationship therapist" and you're literally too fvcking stupid to say anything other than "gynocentric" "cuck" "beta b!tch" blah blah etc. without even considering the context of a long-term marriage.

Quit being a poser. No one buys it.

And don't try to argue with me. I'm smarter than you.
Just because you’re too stupid to understand how research actually works doesn’t mean your point is valid. Everything YOU are saying is just as much an anecdote as the nofappers, if not more so. If you think getting your wife to watch some other dude’s 10-inch hotdog pound attractive women is gonna make her want to have sex with you and NOT that dude on the camera, then you’re a brainless cuck. Suffering from Dunning-Kruger doesn’t mean you’re smarter than me, it actually shows your inherent idiocy. Go get a pregnancy test because you just got raped.
 

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This had occurred to me, truth is it's been nearly two years since I last had sex. I feel like I should be looking
for it but genuinely find the whole female/male dynamic so bewildering that on Jan 1st this year I deleted the 20
matches I'd harvested on Tinder because I truly struggle with the whole thing. I'm on here to try and learn a
different way to behave, but I'm really struggling with motivation to even attempt. I now work in an environment
with a fair quantity of females and indeed can see things about them I find attractive but can't even consider any
kind of interaction that isn't purely platonic. They laugh at my jokes when we get to converse and clearly aren't repelled
by me, I get little waves from them when I catch their eye (it's an Amazon warehouse) and despite the masks we have to
wear I can see that they have smiling eyes, some of these girls are literally half my age too. I just smile back (beneath my
mask) and get back to work. I just don't feel any drive to escalate whatsoever which is why I tried a month of no-fap.

It reminds me of the Joker quote from that Batman movie -
“Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! ”
When you say bewildering, what do you mean by that? Like too intense? I know that oftentimes people with aspies don’t like physical affection and closeness too much because of that but I’m not sure if that’s the right way to put it.

There’s also another thing—you said you tried nofap for a month, implying before you actually were jerking off. This points towards the problem not being libido per se, but something else. Do you actually have no sex drive or is it there? How would you describe this phenomenon for you?
 

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There’s just not much data on it except for that one small study that showed there was an increase in testosterone.
If you actually read that chinese study from 2003 you would know it only increases TESTORONE at the 7th day mark, after that it returns to normal

if not more so. If you think getting your wife to watch some other dude’s 10-inch
Watching porn does not equal fapping, the two are not mutually exclusive. You can fap without Porn.

Here are some actual studies that show the benefits of masturbation

A 2003 study demonstrated that men who ejaculated more than five times each week during their 20s were one third less likely to develop aggressive prostate cancer than those who ejaculated less often.

Researchers speculate that the reduced risk was because frequent ejaculation may prevent the build-up of cancer-causing agents in the prostate gland.



 

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Watching porn does not equal fapping, the two are not mutually exclusive. You can fap without Porn.
That's a good point. My opinion is it's healthy for people to fap using their imagination, as long as they don't overdo it.

Porn, on the other hand, can be really unhealthy, especially with how ubiquitous it is. Back in the day you had to leave the house to find porn (new porn, anyway). You had to get in the car and go to the store and interact with the cashier and think through the whole decision. Now there are millions of images available at home anytime you want. I think this is when it's helpful to go total no-fap, for a while, anyway.
 

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Ah yes more anecdotal Evidence, what other "superpowers" have you gotten? Are women now magically attracted to you?
I couldnt care less about superpowers, what i can confirm is after years of having 80% erections, *(that went down Very fast!)

doing the following:

1)By removing any visualitions( i dont even look at topless women in magazines)

2) I do not touch my unit in anyway or form other than toilet trips.

3) only women are allowed to make me O


I now have 100% erections, that can be instigated by the most average woman, and stay mega wood,even if shes faffing about into another position.
A woman only has to breathe by neck and it sends the most amazing feelings through my body, in this desensitized world we live in.

you may not realise how good this makes me feel after 10 years......and the smile it leaves on the womans face a man with a true 2pm erection
 

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I'm down, let's do this. I jerked off yesterday and had such a weak nut that it wasn't even worth it, and this was grade A porn I was looking at
 

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scientifically indicated to be a placebo effect.
doctors dont believe in chiropractors.....I can 100% confirm a chiropractor has resolved many of my families issues
 

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I did a 30 day no fap last year in a bid to develop some (any) enthusiasm to approach women.
It never made much difference to be honest. I met my soon to be ex wife for a while this afternoon
and in general conversation about my recent exploits on dating sites I told her that despite chatting
to a few women I've matched with on Tin-bin I feel like I'm acting out the part of an interested male,
my heart really isn't in it and I couldn't care less if I never hear from them again as long as I live.
Her reply - "Well you don't like women and you don't like sex." I think I may have to just delete these
apps and consider a solitary existence. It's a shame as I have no problem turning heads and see
'choosing signals' all the time. I just can't get excited about it all, this Aspergers is a curse. I really crave
company but not intimacy or conquest. Time to get a dog I think.
That's because it's a placebo effect. I can approach women no matter if I just fapped or not,it doesn't change anything in my opinion.
 

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This had occurred to me, truth is it's been nearly two years since I last had sex. I feel like I should be looking
for it but genuinely find the whole female/male dynamic so bewildering that on Jan 1st this year I deleted the 20
matches I'd harvested on Tinder because I truly struggle with the whole thing. I'm on here to try and learn a
different way to behave, but I'm really struggling with motivation to even attempt. I now work in an environment
with a fair quantity of females and indeed can see things about them I find attractive but can't even consider any
kind of interaction that isn't purely platonic. They laugh at my jokes when we get to converse and clearly aren't repelled
by me, I get little waves from them when I catch their eye (it's an Amazon warehouse) and despite the masks we have to
wear I can see that they have smiling eyes, some of these girls are literally half my age too. I just smile back (beneath my
mask) and get back to work. I just don't feel any drive to escalate whatsoever which is why I tried a month of no-fap.

It reminds me of the Joker quote from that Batman movie -
“Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! ”
That's strange. Did you have your testosterone level check?
 

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for those at the back , nofap shouldnt be about superpowers, it should be about recovering anykind of E.D, arousal issues,mediocre Erections, dead D'ck..Death grip. etc

All these issues will be gone within around 3 weeks . Plus the feeling of a normal plain woman, making your new found unit, shoot its load over her,whilst shes on her knees merely stroking its new BIG presence, is a real good feeling. for you and her.

1 year ago she would have been aggressively tugging an erection that pointed down to 4pm.....NOT NO MORE !

I am also now, a shower with veins, as opposed to some acorn grower.

its funny how this is like a load of red pill boys, telling blue pill guys all over again........we really should be better than this on this forum
 
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it should be about recovering anykind of E.D, arousal issues,mediocre Erections, dead D'ck..Death grip. etc
It's funny how you ignore actual studies showing the benefits of regular masturbation and instead use Anecdotes To further fuel your own confirmation bias.

Confirmation bias: the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses.
 
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