"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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No sex until 6 months....

mackdaddy27

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met this milf a few days ago.

i really want to bang her, like i will not accept a no.

have seen her already three times, last time i did everything to make her horny. i tried to take off her clothes and tried to do as much as could but she is really being very resistent... 'not until 6 months...'

Shes as stubbon as me wanting to bang her, she is just as stubborn...

she says that she would feel disrespected and disgustede, if she had sex with the wrong guy ands she is making me wait. I escalated on her many times and even got her drunk many times, and it didn't work.

I started to frame our intereaction as if i m the prize and it started to do a little more. I become a little more alpha and that helped.

I feel her body language is different than what she wants to do. I feel like she is logically trying to keep herself from having sex.

NOW, I really like her looks, in fact I kept seeing her 3 dates already just to see she would bend ...

Usually i am the kind of guy who usually likes to close on teh first date, but this one is really special that I was willing to keep trying and i m willing to do whatever, however long it takes to try and get the lay.

I dont know what else to do...

Guys, any advice on this type of situation, what can do you ? what does it mean?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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TESTS FROM WOMEN.........and the token NO.........

I hear that all the time and for a very long time I actually believed chics when they said NO WAY.

Two things........go thru the motions.........dry humping, simulate sex with clothes on. Second........inform her you just want a little teensy sample....just to make sure the 6 month wait is not a waste of time.

When a chic says NO she really means not right now.......so respect the NO...wait a few moments then pick up where you left off.......she says no again........respect the NO.........make a decision.........continue to push pull or shut her down and move on. This method has about a 70% success rate.

If U are dealing with a super stubborn lady............date other women and keep her on the back burner.

I have found that the WAIT never lives up to your expectations.
 

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You're probably a very nice and cool guy that make her feel warm and safe. You're long term material.

You'll **** her EVENTUALLY but six months seriously isn't worth it. Does she let you see other girls while you date?

Explain to her that you're not into "the ownership thing", and stop seeing her for a while. Man, she's already using sex to control you. Just get the hell out of it. There are so many other nice women out there.

I make it clear on the first date that I'm not boyfriend material. That isn't to say I wouldn't like to get to know her, though - or even get intimate with her. Do this, and tell her that you respect her, and she will in most cases let you in.
 

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If you think she is worth it then wait. But from experience and from what I've heard they almost never make you wait as long as they say. It's like a prison term you usually do half or if you get real lucky 1/3 of the time. I've actually had a friend who ****ed a girl in one week and she had a year waiting period lol. Just keep pressing she will give in eventually just don't push too hard for it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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erm, iqqi, it's not unreasonable that he doesn't want to wait 6 months for some sex.

Be a bit standoff-ish and see some other girls, what else is there for it..
 

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shaunuk said:
erm, iqqi, it's not unreasonable that he doesn't want to wait 6 months for some sex.

Be a bit standoff-ish and see some other girls, what else is there for it..
LOL, I KNOW, son.

But I agree with the more level headed posters who have said that she probably WON'T make him wait that long. Besides, he should be spinning plates anyways, so who cares. As long as she is fun to be around, keep her around. And then in mofo'n February, HIT THAT.
 

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The Sperminator said:
If you think she is worth it then wait. But from experience and from what I've heard they almost never make you wait as long as they say. It's like a prison term you usually do half or if you get real lucky 1/3 of the time. I've actually had a friend who ****ed a girl in one week and she had a year waiting period lol. Just keep pressing she will give in eventually just don't push too hard for it.
thanks, thats what i plan on doing.

keep hacking away, keep gaining my alpha, while i am still seeing others on the side, but i am ready to dig in and stick it out.
 

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Its interesting that shes a "milf" I take two things away from that either
a) she regrets her past of being "used" by the father and is afraid she'll be "used" again
b) Its an oxymoron a "milf" that tells you to wait 6 months?

Id definately move on, or have other girls on the go. Personally I always try and keep 3 solid prospects going at once, that way you avoid oneitis and you also get a different mix from them all.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous, chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It's sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to ƒuck you will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, ƒuck you like a porn star and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife/GF comes home early from work - women who want to ƒuck will find a way to ƒuck. The girl who tells you she wants a relationship first or "just isn't comfortable with you yet" is the same girl who ƒucked the "totally hot guy" in the foam cannon party in Cancun with her girlfriends on spring break half an hour after meeting him.

If a girl is that into you she'll ƒuck regardless of ASD or having her friends in the room videotaping it at a frat party. All women can be sexual, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in them, and this happens before you go back to her place. If you have to plead your case cuddling and spooning on the bed or getting the occasional peck on the cheek, you need to go back to square one and start fresh. You cannot negotiate genuine desire.


If she's a MILF and as you describe, my guess is she's a Rules girl now.
 

I.A.F.Y.B.

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I agree with most everyone here. She is the one playing the role of being in charge. While making you wait for sex. If you can't lay her in the next few days or dates. Find someone else willing and able.
 

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The minute you stop wanting it so much, will be the minute you get it.

She can say no now because all you do is try to fvck her. When you STOP that, she'll wonder why you stopped and it'll draw her to you.
 

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NEXT....

Your wasting too much good time and money on that one.

Get your rod out again and re-cast into the river of life, there is bound to be a better catch in there.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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She's probably husband shopping to be honest. i think DonGorgon has it completely wrong. My buddy waited six months for his current girlfriend. She's a church girl, in a gospel group. She spit that contract at him and he accepted it because he was fcking other girls anyway. Eventually one by one all of his other plates came crashing down, by the time the six month mark came he started having feelings for her...they went to the beach for a weekend and bam! that was it, boyfriend and girlfriend. Now he's not getting nearly the sex he was getting before, but she's a good girl and he's 37 and ready to settle down. So he's happy with that.

It's funny though, I kept telling him exactly what was going to happen every step of the way, and it happened just like I told him it would. He wouldn't believe me, but then after it happened he would say "you told me!" but he's happy with her so I can't knock it.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
The instant she said that, you should have gotten up and walked out, telling her "OK! Call me in six months." :D
:crackup: Ha Ha, I would love to see the look on a womans face if a guy said that.
 
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