"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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no one should be a virgin

lurker

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I just find it funny that some guys in thier late 20's are still virgins. i mean wats up with that? getting laid shouldnt be that hard because today my friend or work mate who is 26 just lost his virginity today with a girl he met on the net. they did not even exchance pics they were so horny they exchanged numbers and met 4 days later to have sex. so im wondering how some guys remain a virgin(which is not by choice anyway).
my workmate never had a date in his life .

i say its never to late to learn because i dont think you need much game to lay a woman from the net.
my friends a 6 and the girls a 6.5hb, so they fuked wats the big deal? if an afc like my friend can get laid guys whov been here for years should be able. cuss i know a few master djs here are virgins. virginity isnt a big deal to me i lost mine at 23 in now 25 once i lost mine i didnt even feel needy towards girls anymore its isnt a big deal but that seems to be the main mission of you guys here thats why i posted this.
guys starting out should try every outlet to maximise your chances. i kinda dont dwelle on geting girls online but for a quick f..., it really isnt a bad idea.
though i still think online sarging sucks but atleast you can get some if you try.

sorry this should be in the dicussing not tips mods.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Im not sure you should be saying you donjt understand why, considering you were 23 when you lost yours.

Surely u must remember the time between 17-23, and why you couldnt get laid. Some guys just dont go out, or arent social.
Ive met people in there 30s who were virgins, i dont judge that they are, i do wonder how they havent gone mental though
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getting laid shouldnt be that hard
That's why it's such a big deal. Many virgins are convinced they're abnormal because they haven't convinced anyone to have sex with them. They beat themselves (pun unintended) over not doing something that their friends and pop culture deem "not that hard" to do.
 
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This is a tips section. The only tip you have of losing your virginity is meeting a random girl online.

There are two elements of my virginity - one of choice, and one of non-choice.

The choice factor: 1) Religious + Social.
I have viewed porn in the past because it was easy to do, you just go on the computer and look at free internet porn, although that too is against my faith to do.

Similarly, if it was easy to get laid as it is to view porn on my computer, would I have already lost my virginity? Would I have had sex a few times just for experience and then decide I didn't want to continue with it until I found the right person? Would that be 'natural' if it were easy to get laid?

These are all questions I ask myself with no right or wrong answer. The fact I have viewed porn in the past or thought about going with a hooker indicates there was an interest in illicit forms of sex.

Let's look at opportunities or the non-choice component (if any):

- For the record, I only meet two people who seemed interested this year to have sex with me. One of them was a UG(Black), and another was a FUG, that looked uglier when I saw her in person than what I saw in her 50 pics for some reason. This profile was on between February 10th - March 18th, with only one FUG bite. The UG(black) came from a former incelsite (involuntary celibate) where she also claimed to be an 'involuntary celibate'.

- Other people I meet off the net c&b badly, except for one who is also a virgin, but I'm interested in her romantically as opposed to sexually (i.e. I'd like to kiss her up and take her to a romantic place as opposed to having sex)

What happened on opportunities:

UG(Black) - could not keep a sexual tone, discussion turned religious, because that's just the way I felt. Still see her on occasion to watch movies, but she claims she is looking for LTR. Tried kino with her on last date and she didn't reciprocate, seems more of a 'distance' then earlier in the year.

FUG - too ugly, mom found out about it too. Would not allow me to use family/business car for that purpose on the backseat, or to show her homes as a client or anything.


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Therefore the above are reasons that I'm a virgin, and I will also say, that I tried internet dating and it has not worked for me, as given by the examples above.

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So, did I have a choice at one point this year to have sex if I really wanted to with a natural girl? Yes.

Do I have a choice now? I'm not sure, but I dont think it's likely.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Well, there is always a first time for everything. So, I guess I'm first virgin Master DJ, being the first, I'm a virgin Master DJ in two sences - one is that I never had sex or fondled or kissed a woman before, and the second sence, that no one prior to me was a Master DJ and a virgin at the same time, hitting two birds with one stone, plus, I'm one of the oldest virgins on the board -- at least the oldest person who has never fondled a woman -- so I'm a 3-times virgin - and being a 3-times virgin, I'm possibly the first 3-times virgin, making me a 4-times virgin, and so forth until infinity.
 
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Well, at least I got a DDBL from someone today, so it looks like I must be making progress - read the Jedi Bootcamp - talks about DDBL from someone.

It seems, a person didn't give me any eye-contact or IOI's where, after I did an approach, gave me an instant DDBL, looks like I have to open my mouth more often.
 

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dude online dating is for people with problems. so your friend laid a girl he never even exchanged pictures with? thats scary. let me tell you something about online dating. everywomen on chatrooms has one problem or another. id advice guys and newbees to stay away form the internetchatrooms looking for girls. dating sites are more acceptable in my opinion but i would rather remain a virgin than date someone girl form a chat room. besides virginity sint a big deal but at 30yrs i know 3 people who are virgins and arnt ashamed to say it. loosing your virginity isnt a choice its by chance i lost mine at 9yrs old. the girl was 14 (lol) she even got an abortion (lmfao) she taught she would just fk this yung guy without any implications. anyway girls online got issues last week my firend met a girl online they exchanged pics and all that when he met the girl she was 6 months pregnant. online sarging is lame.
 

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There's absolutely nothing lame about meeting girls online. There are some amazing hotties online but most of them have issues. Use common sense - if she's too eager you're either too good or she's ****ed up psycho :)

BTW. I found my current GF online but hey! I'm not from the US and girls here aren't ****ed up psycho *****es ;-) Anyway, I still think Internet is to be used to getting laid and not for looking for a relationship.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Actually, the worst thing so far I've heard is that one of my better friends.. met a girl through a game, and he now goes there every week.. have a steady relationship and great sex, and yes.. the chick is hot for some reason :p

i lost mine 2,5(now am 17) years ago, with this stud who later became an utter****ing slut which i slapped her in the face for lol
 

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yeah almost anyone can get laid, but some people want sex to actually be worth their time and effort. Getting laid by some ugly fat chick or even just an average chick is not worth my time. Personally I would rather be a virgin than a fat chick thrilla!

It's like saying "Anyone can get a job!" Yes that's true. You can go out immediately and start cleaning toilets or sweeping the streets, or you can wait and work towards something better and more fulfilling.
 

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The Truth said:
yeah almost anyone can get laid, but some people want sex to actually be worth their time and effort. Getting laid by some ugly fat chick or even just an average chick is not worth my time. Personally I would rather be a virgin than a fat chick thrilla!

It's like saying "Anyone can get a job!" Yes that's true. You can go out immediately and start cleaning toilets or sweeping the streets, or you can wait and work towards something better and more fulfilling.
I really like this comparison, very on the point!:up: :flowers:
 
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