"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I mean i've been going out in the same street for 4 years.
I went for a change of scenery today and the club was still packed full of girls i knew. I don't really even feel like talking to most of them because I just feel like the game is too complicated. Saw this HB9 who was at my birthday party and i asked her if she'd come over if i threw another party. She said yea, so i got her number.

As soon as i saved it in my phone she asks about my friend (who brought her home last week, i figured it was AFC).... WTF. So she doesn't want me?


I need to get a proper reputation not only with the girl but with the whole group of girls. I need to **** the **** out of one.

I see guy's 3 years younger than me (the girls's age) really having a bawl. They kiss and hug up all the girls. I just don't feel like i can afford to do that without coming off like an AFC. I'm a little too militant.( how does this make sense? hug girls coming off as AFC? WTF? I don't understand my thought process. I'm just afraid to IOI too much.)
I've been trying to let them pursue me, but damn these girls can get all the c0ck they want.

While i see plenty of women who i know, I ignore the women i don't know. I see some who look hot, but man i feel like going out is boring. Maybe it's because i was fcking exhausted today and jerked off an hour before hitting the club.
Anyone have any pointers on women who generally respect you but won't suck ur cok? I won't go in for a kiss/hug/greeting without them giving me 3 seconds of eye contact first u know. I really don't wanan IOI too much.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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sounds like you could do with observing a bit how your friend behaves. Whatever he is doing seems to be somewhat better than whatever it is your doing
 

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He's just happy and shows people appreciation and stuff. He just really enjoys himself, unlike me.
 

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I'll have to really blast social etiquette into the wind won't I. I might have to unlearn everything i learned. I want to make as many **** ups as i can simply so i can learn from them, but i live in a small town.

I've never gotten pvssy before without putting a little effort into it. U have to sacrifice face because i feel like when ur hollering at a girl you're lowering your value to theirs. You're no better than the girls you're scoring. So should i lower my standards?? Should i forget about saving face? Maybe i should get totally ****faced next week and grope all the girls i know.
 

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The difference between you and your friend is he's just going out to enjoy himself and he's giving love to all the girls there, being social and fun. The quiet mysterious guy thing doesn't really work. You have to be social. There is an art to social but still mysterious and sexy.

I go around and talk to alot of girls and people, but I never really talk about myself. Even if they ask I give short, sometimes vague answers. I like to find out more about them and whats behind them. This isn't because I want to suck up, but because I like talking about things I'm interested in and I'm not really interested in myself, because I already KNOW myself. I spend everyday with me. It's okay to focus on the things you want, but not on who you are, because that's completely subjective and there's no point in analyzing that. You just ARE. You should shift your attention from inward to outward, but remember, it's okay to care about people, but not to care about what people think of you.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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So i have to really CARE about these people??
 

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So there's a few things i'll have to do.

1. Be outcome independent.
2. Come to terms with the fact women know the game better than us.
3. Flirt and see where it goes!
The bottom line:
4. Don't take ANYTHING seriously.
 

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Chamber36 said:
I'll have to really blast social etiquette into the wind won't I.
Social etiquette is different in each situation. If you've only got one set of rules that you're playing by, and those rules apply to a work or family setting, then you're definitely going to have to do some observing and learning before being successful. Social skills take practice to develop, and you need different skill sets for different situations.

It's amazing how many people want to get their **** wet and don't realize that women are human beings, and all you have to do is generate in them feelings of connection and excitement and their panties drop faster than you could rip them off... that can be achieved by being physically fit, practicing situational humor, and developing excellent conversational skills (though PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE).
 

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Today at work my game was on point. Somehow i just had the correct attitude. I noticed how the real hot girls have really strong eye contact. Anyway i got some boob kino by "accident" and the girl laughed so that was the highlight of my week. Another girl got the urge to wipe the sweat off my face, so that was pretty hot.... Then I asked another girl a simple question and my tone was really sexual. It was surprising, familiar and relieving all at once.

I was confident to begin with because i was doing my work properly.
So i feel real good right now. I just need my game to be like this consistently.
 
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