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No kissing on the first date?
- Thread starter Canadian Idol
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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Canadian Idol
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Actually she didnt leave me wanting more, if anything it made me realize that she had more interest then I thought because she even said that she was waiting by the phone which made my interest level go down a bit, but not too low that I am not persuing anymore. I will be kinoing her alot next date because I plan on it being a more interactive date rather then just plain getting to know her. I wont be expecting a kiss but I will go for a kiss before the end of the night and if she rejects me then thats a possible NEXT! and regardless I will call her today but a little later then I had planned so she begins to wonder a little bit more.
isotope
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tell us what happend.
and dont read too much into the kiss. its possible she really has some principles, but that doesnt mean she doesnt like you. it sounds like she really likes you. and definitely go for the kiss on second date. dont ask, just do it at the right moment.
and maybe she would have kissed on first date if you hade just doen it at teh right moment. by asking, you put her on the spot and made her uncomfortable, so she might just have made that response to let off teh tension. its kind of unnatural to say "give me a kiss" and then have her give you one.
anyway the fact that she hugged you makes me think she digs you, so chill and have a good time and make the first move, but not too fast
and dont read too much into the kiss. its possible she really has some principles, but that doesnt mean she doesnt like you. it sounds like she really likes you. and definitely go for the kiss on second date. dont ask, just do it at the right moment.
and maybe she would have kissed on first date if you hade just doen it at teh right moment. by asking, you put her on the spot and made her uncomfortable, so she might just have made that response to let off teh tension. its kind of unnatural to say "give me a kiss" and then have her give you one.
anyway the fact that she hugged you makes me think she digs you, so chill and have a good time and make the first move, but not too fast
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ok, well as I told you I never called that day I was suppose to and I ran into her at the club she works at and she was like "hey u never called!" everything seemed alright and I tell her that I will call the next day. Well I did call the next day about 2 hours after I said I would, anyways I called her and she picks up and says "hello" and I was like "hey hows it goin?" then all I get is a friggin hangup. I have no idea what the hell happened, my friends say that she was probally just pissed off that I never called and that they would have dont the same thing if they were her. What should I do now?
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Too late, I went to the club again and she was working, heres the breakdown!: I gave her my coat and said hi, I get a hi back, and take my number, I left it at that. So I go over later and I figure I had to ask her straight up as to why she hung up on me. Anyways, she says that her phone died and she couldnt call me back because my number was in her phone that she couldnt get into because the battery was dead. So I said "well why didnt u call me the next day?!" so she said "Well why didnt you call me the next day after our date?!" So then I said "look I hate playing games, I didnt have time to call u that day because I was busy, and I showed you that I would still call because I called the next day and you hung up, I hate games, I am telling you that I would like to get to know u better" so she says that she is busy throughout the week, so I get her to break down what she is doing, anyways thursday looked not so busy for her and I said "well lets do something thursday before you have to work" and she says "ok, call me around 6ish tommorow".
So I am talking to this guy that knows her and is friends with her and he says that she does that all the time to him.
I really have nothing to lose so I am going to call her tommorow at 6. Any suggestions, anger, problems with what I am doing/going about this?! I wanna hear everything...
So I am talking to this guy that knows her and is friends with her and he says that she does that all the time to him.
I really have nothing to lose so I am going to call her tommorow at 6. Any suggestions, anger, problems with what I am doing/going about this?! I wanna hear everything...
Canadian Idol, it seems that you are overlooking some red flags with the girl.
And curiosly enough, I laughed when I read your particular post on how she hung up on you when you called her the second time around because it reminded me of the same scenario with a girl I was dealing with several weeks ago who pulled the same stunt.
I think you did well that you did not call when she wanted to. It showed that you are a busy guy with other things on his mind. The fact is the dead battery excuse was just that, an excuse. She hung up on you because she was pissed that you did not call when she wanted to. That in itself is a cause for concern because it revealed her true colors so to speak. This girl is most likely the controlling possessive type who has to have her way or she will give in to fits and rages. Yes, she probably does like you, but shows clear signs of emotional instability.
Do you really want a girl like this?
I could understand being angered by being stood up on a date, but not calling precisely at a certain time? Yes, this chick has definite issues and it should serve as a clear warning that you are not dealing with a normal girl.
A stable, normal girl, especially one who you just met would not have reacted in the same way. To the contrary, she would have felt relieved and happy that you called at all.
The 3-4 day rule serves to not only raise a girl's IL, but also to weed out the undesirables. All I am saying is if a girl hangs up on you because you called a couple of days later or not when you said (not promised) you would, than you are dealing with one fycked up chick in my opinion.
And curiosly enough, I laughed when I read your particular post on how she hung up on you when you called her the second time around because it reminded me of the same scenario with a girl I was dealing with several weeks ago who pulled the same stunt.
I think you did well that you did not call when she wanted to. It showed that you are a busy guy with other things on his mind. The fact is the dead battery excuse was just that, an excuse. She hung up on you because she was pissed that you did not call when she wanted to. That in itself is a cause for concern because it revealed her true colors so to speak. This girl is most likely the controlling possessive type who has to have her way or she will give in to fits and rages. Yes, she probably does like you, but shows clear signs of emotional instability.
Do you really want a girl like this?
I could understand being angered by being stood up on a date, but not calling precisely at a certain time? Yes, this chick has definite issues and it should serve as a clear warning that you are not dealing with a normal girl.
A stable, normal girl, especially one who you just met would not have reacted in the same way. To the contrary, she would have felt relieved and happy that you called at all.
The 3-4 day rule serves to not only raise a girl's IL, but also to weed out the undesirables. All I am saying is if a girl hangs up on you because you called a couple of days later or not when you said (not promised) you would, than you are dealing with one fycked up chick in my opinion.