"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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no kiss on first date

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I was on a first date with this awesome girl last night, we went to dinner, went to a bar for a drink, and there was so much kino between us, we also danced for a long time. I was talking to her on the phone and chat for two weeks before we met. There was absolutely no awkwardness anytime. When we left, I tried to kiss her on lips and she said she does not kiss on first date! She said sorry and then again she said she does not feel sorry though.

I know this is nothing to do with me, but is it a bad sign that I was trying to kiss and ended up not kissing. Could it have been better if I had not tried on the first date and waited for next time?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Haha, you got p00ned. I'd smack that ho if she said that to me.
 
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You may have seemed to "eager", but I doubt she really thoght anything of it. Many girls I know are like this, and they also know that almost all guys would like AT LEAST a kiss on that first date. So i doubt it is really a big deal.

Just keep doing what you were doing, she probably wanted to kiss you, but she may ave some of the old school traditions from family or whatever about not kissing on the first date.
 

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she said she doesn't kiss on the first date? That's bull****. She just wasn't feeling you. Try one more time, then bail.
 

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Espi said:
Several keys to getting the first kiss:

1. DO NO wait until the end of the date! Once you have 3 IOI's, phase-shift and say, "Would you like to kiss me?" Rarely will she say yes. Is she pauses (which is often), say, "Let's find out," and kiss her. If she says no, say, "I didn't say you could...It just looked like you had something on your mind, and I thought I'd bring it up."

2. At the end of the date (you should have kissed her by now, but if you didn't get 3 IOI's, don't ask the question as stated in key #1), point your finger to your cheek and say, "Kiss goodbye." This is a compromise, but YOU command the kiss...

I'm new here and just wanted to say that #1 is brilliant!!! and I wish I knew it years ago!
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I like triangular gazing better:

If there's a point when you're together, hopefully running tight mid-game, talking about feelings and emotions and togetherness and all that crap, let the conversation trail off, and look her in the eyes, If all has gone well:

Her pupils will dialate
She'll look at your eyes, then your lips, then your eyes again

Kiss her.
 

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Serialized3 said:
I like triangular gazing better:

If there's a point when you're together, hopefully running tight mid-game, talking about feelings and emotions and togetherness and all that crap, let the conversation trail off, and look her in the eyes, If all has gone well:

Her pupils will dialate
She'll look at your eyes, then your lips, then your eyes again

Kiss her.
This happened to me last night. Conversation paused, and the moment comes. If it passes without action, things can become awkward. We basically attacked each other like animals for the next half hour, because that first kiss was timed so perfectly.
 

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Rondavu said:
This happened to me last night. Conversation paused, and the moment comes. If it passes without action, things can become awkward. We basically attacked each other like animals for the next half hour, because that first kiss was timed so perfectly.

That's what it's all about bro, building up that sexual tension until just the right moment.
 
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