"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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No downside to this, but is there a realistic upside?

The LadyKiller

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A couple of months ago, I went out with a HB 7.5 once. We had a decent time and planned to meet again, but she flaked on the day of the date. I probably didn't handle it as nonchalantly as I could have, but it was what it was. We texted very briefly after that, but then we stopped. I didn't see any need to chase, so I moved on.

Fast-forward to today. I'm swiping through a dating side and see HB 7.5, who did something new with her hair that makes her close to a HB 8. Seeing how we're both single and I'm growing weary of always driving 45 minutes to the major city near me to try and meet women (HB 7.5 lives in my town), I hit her with a text. No downside, right? We texted back and forth a little bit, I suggested we catch up over drinks, she agreed and we have a date set for later this week.

I've never felt a need to try to reconnect with a former dating interest who I wasn't all that involved with. For whatever reason, I decided to change things up. But, how realistic is the upside? I wonder if she is simply going to flake again, go on the date to get a free couple of drinks, or if my texting out of the blue was a right time/right place deal.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Most likely fishing for attention of a former interest and then looking to flake when able.

Though she may be open to giving you another chance. Good luck OP.
 

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For the sake of discussion, if the roles were reversed - putting yourself in her shoes, what's ur take on a girl whom you flaked in the past suddenly out of the blue initiates contact and invites you for a drink?
 

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For the sake of discussion, if the roles were reversed - putting yourself in her shoes, what's ur take on a girl whom you flaked in the past suddenly out of the blue initiates contact and invites you for a drink?
Depends on the reason for the flaking, but I'm sure it's somewhat of an uncommon situation. Theoretically the odds are against me here, but there's minimal risk.

Most likely fishing for attention of a former interest and then looking to flake when able.

Though she may be open to giving you another chance. Good luck OP.
If she flakes again, she's immediately out. The place we're meeting at is 3 blocks from my apartment, so there isn't much of a time or distance commitment if I get burned.

If this were a HB from 45 minutes away, I would need more assurance before I made the trip. But because she lives in my town and I can walk to many of the hotspots, there's no harm when the expectations going in aren't high.
 

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Yo!
Not to knock on your story bro, but there's hardly any difference between a 7.5 and an 8
Only a .5 difference in value.
That's like getting a coupon in the mail for 50¢ off
I thought it was absurdly funny you mentioned that.

And I personally wouldn't gives flakes 2nd chances if I were you, especially after you've met before. It just signals to them that they are allowed to get away with disrespectful behavior.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Depends on the reason for the flaking, but I'm sure it's somewhat of an uncommon situation. Theoretically the odds are against me here, but there's minimal risk.



If she flakes again, she's immediately out. The place we're meeting at is 3 blocks from my apartment, so there isn't much of a time or distance commitment if I get burned.

If this were a HB from 45 minutes away, I would need more assurance before I made the trip. But because she lives in my town and I can walk to many of the hotspots, there's no harm when the expectations going in aren't high.

Reason she flakes she either had ex boyfriend back in the picture or a higher smv that came in the picture.

It prob did not work so she once again open for buisness
 

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You just framed urself as a beta orbiter to her.

Good luck reframing that.
 

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A couple of months ago, I went out with a HB 7.5 once. We had a decent time and planned to meet again, but she flaked on the day of the date. I probably didn't handle it as nonchalantly as I could have, but it was what it was. We texted very briefly after that, but then we stopped. I didn't see any need to chase, so I moved on.
I’m curious what you texted a girl after she stood you up.

Fast-forward to today. I'm swiping through a dating side and see HB 7.5, who did something new with her hair that makes her close to a HB 8. Seeing how we're both single and I'm growing weary of always driving 45 minutes to the major city near me to try and meet women (HB 7.5 lives in my town), I hit her with a text. No downside, right?
WRONG. Why would you text a girl who stood you up? That shows weakness, not power.

For whatever reason, I decided to change things up. But, how realistic is the upside? I wonder if she is simply going to flake again, go on the date to get a free couple of drinks, or if my texting out of the blue was a right time/right place deal.
Not much upside, you gave up your power as soon as you texted her “out of the blue.” But it’s up to you what you want to do.
 

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A couple of months ago, I went out with a HB 7.5 once. We had a decent time and planned to meet again, but she flaked on the day of the date. I probably didn't handle it as nonchalantly as I could have, but it was what it was. We texted very briefly after that, but then we stopped. I didn't see any need to chase, so I moved on.

Fast-forward to today. I'm swiping through a dating side and see HB 7.5, who did something new with her hair that makes her close to a HB 8. Seeing how we're both single and I'm growing weary of always driving 45 minutes to the major city near me to try and meet women (HB 7.5 lives in my town), I hit her with a text. No downside, right? We texted back and forth a little bit, I suggested we catch up over drinks, she agreed and we have a date set for later this week.

I've never felt a need to try to reconnect with a former dating interest who I wasn't all that involved with. For whatever reason, I decided to change things up. But, how realistic is the upside? I wonder if she is simply going to flake again, go on the date to get a free couple of drinks, or if my texting out of the blue was a right time/right place deal.
Begging to get cuucked.

Women are disgusting and they have a free pass when they do ****ty things and men like yourself are at theur beck and call.


If hit by a 16wheeleero zero ****kks given. Too busy hitting on baeees barely legal and going balls deep.

Step game up son.

#nextSet
 

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There are other plates. Went on a date earlier this week and had a great time. This one particular HB requires virtually no time commitment. Perception/orbit status doesn't bother me in this situation because the worst outcome is: I walk five minutes from my place to our meetup point, she flakes, I walk one more block to a bar some of my friends frequent and I delete her number/never see her again.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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