"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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No contact/indifference is GOLD

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1. That girl I really screwed up with in her car? Well, after she rejected me I was indifferent. Then no contact.

One week later, she emails me.

2. For fun, yesterday (perfect illustration of the point) I left a girl who gave me her number the following voicemail:

"Hi *girl's name*. This is Darth. I think you're beautiful. I think you're cute. I've had a crush on you for months. And, uh, I would like to take you out sometime. My number is *******. Give me a call back. I really like you! (click)."

Then the next day I saw her in person and followed her around like a puppy dog and said, "I want to get together with you!" She said...."I'll call you around 8:30."

I smiled to myself, knowing of course that she wouldn't call. She didn't.

So around 9:15 I call. It goes to voicemail. I leave the following message: "Well I thought you wanted to see me. Guess not. No problem. Have a nice semester."

Two minutes later she calls me back. She's so sorry, she had put her phone down, blah blah blah.


Great stuff!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Darth said:
"Hi *girl's name*. This is Darth. I think you're beautiful. I think you're cute. I've had a crush on you for months. And, uh, I would like to take you out sometime. My number is *******. Give me a call back. I really like you! (click)."

Then the next day I saw her in person and followed her around like a puppy dog and said, "I want to get together with you!" She said...."I'll call you around 8:30."

I smiled to myself, knowing of course that she wouldn't call. She didn't.

So around 9:15 I call. It goes to voicemail. I leave the following message: "Well I thought you wanted to see me. Guess not. No problem. Have a nice semester."

Two minutes later she calls me back. She's so sorry, she had put her phone down, blah blah blah. Great stuff!
Bold = Whaaat?

I could se why the first example worked and the rest of the thread as well, but your voicemail is so AFC'ish that I almost cried! Haha, were you doing o purpose, what's the technique here?
 

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Well it only works for girls who were actually attracted.

Girls who weren't into you in the first place... Well you're doing them a favor.
 

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This does work...build her up and show a lot of interest and then all of a sudden pull the rug out from under her feet and pull away. Works great if you can show up with another girl where she is right after you pull away.
 

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Could it be that the only real way to be her #1 is to dump her and let her come crawling back?
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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^^I have no idea.

It's as if they WANT to fight an uphill battle.
 

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Girl number 2 left a message on my phone last night saying, "Hi...Sorry I didn't get back to you when I said I would....I guess I got back from work a little late...I guess I'll talk to you later. Bye."

I haven't responded yet.
 

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Robyn923b said:
I could se why the first example worked and the rest of the thread as well, but your voicemail is so AFC'ish that I almost cried!
I thought it was funny, but sure, it was a strategic error, I'll give you that. When she called me last night, I had to do a 180 and be kind of a jerk to reverse the damage from that voicemail.

I made fun of her, I acted like I had already rejected her, and I gave her a hard time about being "busy"

("Come on!" I said, "that's code for 'I don't want to go out with you.' 'No it's not!' If you wanna take it that way, instead of me just being genuinely busy...' she said. 'I'm just calling it like I see it,' I said.)

and then I asked her if she liked my voicemail. She said, "Yeah, *giggle* a little."

I said, "Yeah, I got a kick out of it."

But now I have a problem, because I'm not the AFC from the voicemail, and I'm not quite as much of a jerk as I was on the phone. My real self is in between).

So I know she's going to be working at this place I go over the next few days. I'm trying to think how I should play this.
 

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Ok... I'm sure the guys will flame me for this, but it's just for fun, and to purposely "mess' with her.....

call up one of your close HB female friends. Have her show up 15 min after you get there, and act like shes an "old friend who hasn't seen you in awhile".

then flirt with her, and leave with her saying you both are going to another bar.

Then dont answer the texts you will get, until the next morning. LOL
 

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Joe Stud said:
call up one of your close HB female friends. Have her show up 15 min after you get there, and act like shes an "old friend who hasn't seen you in awhile".

then flirt with her, and leave with her saying you both are going to another bar.

Then dont answer the texts you will get, until the next morning. LOL
hahaha....that's funny.

EDIT: Actually, maybe something along those lines might work....
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Darth said:
2. For fun, yesterday (perfect illustration of the point) I left a girl who gave me her number the following voicemail:

"Hi *girl's name*. This is Darth. I think you're beautiful. I think you're cute. I've had a crush on you for months. And, uh, I would like to take you out sometime. My number is *******. Give me a call back. I really like you! (click)."

Then the next day I saw her in person and followed her around like a puppy dog and said, "I want to get together with you!" She said...."I'll call you around 8:30."

I smiled to myself, knowing of course that she wouldn't call. She didn't.

So around 9:15 I call. It goes to voicemail. I leave the following message: "Well I thought you wanted to see me. Guess not. No problem. Have a nice semester."

Two minutes later she calls me back. She's so sorry, she had put her phone down, blah blah blah.


Great stuff!

This isn't a great illustration of your point at all. This isn't no contact. And calling a girl to reminder her that she didn't call you is definitely not a sign of indifference.

If the girl likes you, and it works out, great. But it'll probably be because she already liked you in the first place. Not because of your flawed definition of "indifference".
 

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Iceberg said:
This isn't a great illustration of your point at all. This isn't no contact. And calling a girl to reminder her that she didn't call you is definitely not a sign of indifference.

If the girl likes you, and it works out, great. But it'll probably be because she already liked you in the first place. Not because of your flawed definition of "indifference".
Example number one was indifference, and no contact.

You're right, Example number 2 is more a botched job, saved by a pre-emptive breakup (thanks Seinfeld!)

EDIT: Although actually, dropping her does show indifference. I'll stand by that.
 

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Don't worry about your original message! With some girls you need to be like that, mainly for the average girls/those who don't get much attention. If you really liker her personality then hell, why not?

However her response... It's not favourable you gained now ground. Did she talk about your original message? Or did she ignore what you said?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Got girl number one back yesterday:)
 

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You know after responding in the test thread, I realized that the deal with girl #2 is not best described as indifference, or a pre-emptive breakup.

It was having standards high enough to say, hey- if you said you were going to call at a particular time and you didn't, that's unacceptable for me. Next.

This shocked her and changed the dynamic. Before, she thought I worshipped her.

After that, it's as if she permanently blew her chances with me because my standards were too high.

Interesting....
 
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