"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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No apartment to fvck in! What to do?

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Guys, I have a serious dilemma. I am going out for drinks with a HB9 tomorrow night. I am couch surfing at my brother's place because I am securing a job before I rent an apartment.

Now I know this girl is DTF. She is driving an hour to come to my city. Now the thing is, I can't bring her back to my brother's place. :confused: I can't just take her upstairs and go "oh yea, I'm crashing on this couch".

How would you guys handle this? I want to smash but there is NO way I can take her back here. Get it on in a car? Come clean about not having my own place at the moment? :nervous:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Do you have money? Go check out a motel or hotel.
 

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yeah, id just bang her in the car. i've done it, its not too bad.

drive up to a decent spot to "talk" and "chill" and then just get it on...
 

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SeymourCake said:
Do you have money? Go check out a motel or hotel.
I am pretty broke since I don't have a job (fresh out of college). I think I have $130 to my name right now.
 

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I am pretty broke since I don't have a job (fresh out of college). I think I have $130 to my name right now.
You should save the $130 for desperate needs such as food, shelter, clothes, bills to pay, etc.

Bang her in the car. If you can build up sexual tension in the car, then she wouldn't mind having sex in the car because she'll be craving for your d!ck regardless of the setting.

Make sure no law enforcement are nearby and you should be fine.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Sofomore said:
I am pretty broke since I don't have a job (fresh out of college). I think I have $130 to my name right now.

Try the beach, pool at night if you live close by or see about a friends place. You may have to settle for a cheap motel or just smash in your or her car. Or drive somewhere secluded and **** her over the hood of the car etc.
 

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lol this brings memory, I was gonna Fck this girl off POF, but i was broke and didn't have any money for a hotel, I told her I knew this spot near her house * which I did, because that's where I used to have sex with this one girl* where we could safely have sex in the car, but she didn't want to, she was scared. She asked me, don't you have your own place, and I didn't
 

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I know how you feel, it's so much easier getting a girl in bed when you have your own place. When I think about it, 90% of the time I got laid was in my own place. The other 10% was at her place but that is out the option for you.

Do you have a friends spot you can take her too? When I had my own spot I always had this friend that needed a place to smash when I had my own spot and of course I would let him, he probably banged about 5 woman in my place. If not my place he would take them to this secluded park where he could park in the middle of trees and fvck them in the car and even in the woods (I know I went on a couple of missions with some slvts with him).

Other than that, it's really difficult if you don't have a spot, having your own place just really increases your confidence and in my case always resulted in more pvssy by far.
 

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Sofomore said:
Guys, I have a serious dilemma. I am going out for drinks with a HB9 tomorrow night. I am couch surfing at my brother's place because I am securing a job before I rent an apartment.

Now I know this girl is DTF. She is driving an hour to come to my city. Now the thing is, I can't bring her back to my brother's place. :confused: I can't just take her upstairs and go "oh yea, I'm crashing on this couch".

How would you guys handle this? I want to smash but there is NO way I can take her back here. Get it on in a car? Come clean about not having my own place at the moment? :nervous:
One of the pof sloots? How many responses on there so far? The only issue will be if someone in your area is spamming the same message to the same chicks. If so work on a similar intro message to spam. Dont go overboard spamming on a daily basis as the system will block you from sending copy and paste. You can get around it by adding or changing a word though.
 

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Naughty Ninja said:
One of the pof sloots? How many responses on there so far? The only issue will be if someone in your area is spamming the same message to the same chicks. If so work on a similar intro message to spam. Dont go overboard spamming on a daily basis as the system will block you from sending copy and paste. You can get around it by adding or changing a word though.
what does that have to do with his dilemma?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Dude you have three options:


1) Take her to your brothers place and just act like its your place when your brother is gone. Give your bro a run down and he might let you smash on his bed or around it. Hell smash on the couch and kitchen alot of people never even get to the bed.

2) Smash in the car. Take her to a secluded area, hell even a park at night and just escalate and do hella kino , and throw in some liquor and get it on.

3) Go to her place, make up some excuse about your place. Its being fumigated or a female relative is staying over and they need sleep. Do your thang man.

Good luck and give me a update on how your challenge is going when you can.
 

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Meeting up with one tonight and another tomorrow night. I'll let you guys know what happens.
 

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Meeting up with one tonight and another tomorrow night. I'll let you guys know what happens.

POF sloots? lol
 

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Drive her to some secluded place with a nice view, bring in crack and weed. F'ck her on the front seat you outside, stick it from behind and choke her with the seatbelt. Problem solved!
 

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An awesome experience i had before was a night of f**king at my old complex, but we f**ked eveywhere except in the actual apartment. Take her for a walk around the complex and look for a vacant apartment: a few lights on, empty, unlocked, trust me, they are there. You can make it a game to find one. Plus it adds a risk factor that she'll love. Just do it late and you'll be perfectly safe. I've done this before and we got it on in very room in that place. It rocked.

That same night we got it on in the women's bathroom at the fitness center and on the balcony of my apartment.

Where there's a will, there's a way.

Go get 'em tiger.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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It worked out last night...we just went back to her place because my "cousin was sleeping in my bed". She could tell I was lying but didn't care.

To any guy that wants really easy ***** from hot but mentally messed up girls, use POF. If you want a girlfriend, avoid the site like the plague. I'm pretty sure every girl is a nympho that "wants a relationship" but will ALWAYS fck on the first date.

Tonight is the real test. It's the girl driving to see me. I feel like I have to take her to a public park. Ugh it feels like high school again.
 
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