I_Only_Live_Once
Senior Don Juan
- Joined
- May 15, 2005
- Messages
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- Reaction score
- 5
HB7.5 ....she would score a bit better but she just gives off this kind of trailer-park vibe
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Nice guys "myspace article"
- Thread starter tristan22
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
tru_playa778
New Member
I'd say she's an 8.4 + or - a few
selfmademob
Banned
I agree with his trailer park comment. I even say 7.0
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Senior Don Juan
LMAO i really like this idea! since a HB 0 is basically unrecognizable as a women.....
I volunteer your face Amalthea to be the HB 0 face... and we'll start from there
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Game her then!
To those that think she's low rating chick, then go ahead, take this a challenge and dj her off her feets. Lol.
Since she complaints so much about nice guy, it would nice to show her what a dj/real man is about.
Personally, an 8, since she has a strong personality and she does know what she wants.
To those that think she's low rating chick, then go ahead, take this a challenge and dj her off her feets. Lol.
Since she complaints so much about nice guy, it would nice to show her what a dj/real man is about.
Personally, an 8, since she has a strong personality and she does know what she wants.
zerocelcius
Master Don Juan
Ironically did you hear the song she has playing? LOL
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haha no she has that lame fake blonde thing going, she = 7
hey what do you guys think of this "nice girls" rant?
http://www.geocities.com/miss_priss_85/
hey what do you guys think of this "nice girls" rant?
http://www.geocities.com/miss_priss_85/
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
The sides of both girls were intersting: one obviously written by a girl who has no problem getting and knowing what she wants, (even to the point of writting an article about the type "nice guys" she doesn't like), the other article written by a girl who's probably been scorned numerous times by the objects of her affection.
Ironically that's probably the case with 90% of the guys on this site. We try so hard to get the girls we want and yet it doesn't really seem to work out for us, here some girl complains about the same thing. I still say that girl, attractive or not, doesn't really have much to complain about since in the end girls are still the choosers. If that girl really wanted someone as her boyfriend she could get one in an instant.
Does it still come down to leagues then? Are the standards of some nice people too high? Does it come down to "game" (for guys in the verbal/physical aspect, girls "femininity"? Because if that's the case aren't we doing that (going to to gym, buying new clothes, etc.) while this girl obivoiusly does the same (prissing herself up, flirting etc.)
Does someone have an answer for this because now I'm confused.
Ironically that's probably the case with 90% of the guys on this site. We try so hard to get the girls we want and yet it doesn't really seem to work out for us, here some girl complains about the same thing. I still say that girl, attractive or not, doesn't really have much to complain about since in the end girls are still the choosers. If that girl really wanted someone as her boyfriend she could get one in an instant.
Does it still come down to leagues then? Are the standards of some nice people too high? Does it come down to "game" (for guys in the verbal/physical aspect, girls "femininity"? Because if that's the case aren't we doing that (going to to gym, buying new clothes, etc.) while this girl obivoiusly does the same (prissing herself up, flirting etc.)
Does someone have an answer for this because now I'm confused.
some of this goes against most DJ "beliefs" but i think it boils down to this ....
i think males and females are more similar than most of the people on this site seem to think.
if a guy is really not happy with himself, he wants someone to get energy from and will end up being an AFC
if a guy is happy with himself he can attract a girl who is also happy with herself
now if a girl is not happy with herself she will subconsciously think that she is not worthy of the attention and it is doomed to fail
if she is then she can attract a guy who is as well
there is still a distinction between the genders there, but it is the same process/problem
i think males and females are more similar than most of the people on this site seem to think.
if a guy is really not happy with himself, he wants someone to get energy from and will end up being an AFC
if a guy is happy with himself he can attract a girl who is also happy with herself
now if a girl is not happy with herself she will subconsciously think that she is not worthy of the attention and it is doomed to fail
if she is then she can attract a guy who is as well
there is still a distinction between the genders there, but it is the same process/problem
Broham
Senior Don Juan
Why did this thread turn into Hot or Not? She is at least an 8......I bet half of you guys would be afraid to even approach her. Her knowledge of the game proves that she's not delusional like most girls and that bumps her up to a 9.
Horse Whisperer
Don Juan
hmm... moderately interesting read but a) She is 21 (a mere pup) which explains why b) she is exuding a faux external confidence leading nicely onto why c) she is single and wants to garner attention from (mostly) men on My Space!
Attention seekers like this must be Shift+Deleted at once!
Attention seekers like this must be Shift+Deleted at once!
I've told this story before, but i think i'll tell it again. There is a girl i met off of myspace. She looks pretty seductive and sexy in her photos, but in real life she looks like Herman Munster.
Don't be fooled by the photos on myspace...........pictures can be deceiving.
Don't be fooled by the photos on myspace...........pictures can be deceiving.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
thefuture
Don Juan
Part 2 to the myspace article
Part 2: *****y Women
The flip side to the “nice guy” mentality is, of course, the “*****” stereotype. I’m going to ignore the “women who like to be abused” bull****, as well as the “nice women who get overlooked” bull****, because I think both of those are pretty cut and dry: “women who like to be abused” don’t really exist, although women who have bad taste in men do; and as far as “nice women who get overlooked,” that statement translates to either the woman is either plain or pretty enough, but not “ultra feminine,” so her prettiness goes unnotices, or else she’s simply a quiet woman who goes about her own business and tends not to get “boy crazy,” in my experience these women don’t date a lot but usually end up with someone who thinks their grand. Anyway, I’m not “nice” in that way, so I don’t have a lot to say about it. Instead I’ll discuss one of my questions: Why do so many men like *****y women?Again, there are different things that can fall under the category of a “*****y women.”
1. There are, without a doubt, women who are genuinely mean people; and often these women are the *****iest to other women, but tend to play up to men, because on some level being a “*****” is all about power. I have to admit that these kind of women usually don’t piss me off quite as much as ******* guys do, because I think I get where they’re coming from, and while I think that they suck, Ican’t bring myself to hate them for trying to pursue their own self interest. Really, I think these women aren’t all that intelligent, they may be smart enough in a clever, bookish logic way, but their inability to empathize with others or consider the complexities of power and self advancement strikes me as being close minded and blind.
2. Women who are abusive. Nothing much to say about this subject. These women treat the people in their life like ****. Really cut and dry, self explanatory.
3. Strong women, as we all know, all get called “*****” sooner or later. We’ve all heard the little jingle about how “***** = Babe in Total Control of Herself.” The reclaiming of “*****,” I think, refers primarily to this sense: it’s a preemptive move that women use to take the wind out of the misogynistic sail.
4. Women who are *****y in private relationships. This is what I’m most interested in, and I’ll admit that it’s because, to some extent, this is me. However, not in an abusive type manner, as in scenerio number two. So anyway, women who are *****y in private relationships are often times described as “high-strung” or “high maintenance.” Up to a point, I think these women are good people for solid, self-confident guys, we have a clear sense of boundaries, we’re direct, we’re not conflict averse, we don’t waste time hinting that something’s wrong…all in all pretty straight forward. But I’ll admit that sometimes those skills get misapplied, and I’ll end up being incredibly rigid over something that really isn’t at all worth the trouble, something that’s usually simply an easier to deal with version of something bigger that I’m worried about. Like, and I think a lot of students tend to do this, perhaps especially woment. My stress over “having” to work on some big research paper will somehow be transferred into having a fit over the fact that my roommate didn’t vacuum. I think this is often (not always, or perhaps not even usually) a problem with high achieving woment: we put very high, maybe even unrealistic expectations on ourselves, and we have a certain amount of anger at situations where we perceive that our achievments or efforts are undervaluened. Really, it boils down to the fact that we would like to be more assertive but can’t because after all “nice girls” aren’t pushy…well at least not in public, and to detour being labeled abrasive or lacking tact. So in general, there is the constant stress of trying to balance ambition without seeming abrasive or rude. So, I think (and by now you’re either realizing that this is an elaborate rationalization or else and elaborate piece of self analysis, or both) that this stress gets internalized and comes out in private relationships, as extreme impatience with significant others on whom we place a lot of expectations for support that we don’t feel is forthcoming anywhere else.
So let me clearify, I don’t think that being a ***** is entirely okay. I think that certain level os personal *****iness” is fine, and I suspect a lot of men are attracted to strong, assertive, ambitious women, which is of course the simple answer to the “why do men like *****y women” question. But I wonder about the men who live with those women who are “*****y” in private relationships. What’s the attraction? I admit I don’t think I could do it. Is it that decent, confident guys are sure enough of themselves that they can live with women who get a little overwrought because they know it’s nothing personal? Is it that on some level they understand the internal tention of being ambitious and being “nice”? Is it actually that they like the 80-90hat’s strong confident, and assertive, and frankly really hate the 10-20hat’s just flat out *****y but figure that on balance the good outweights the bad? Is it a really sweet and generous expression of the fact that decent guys really truly do like women, and they’re just not all that fazed by anger or the occasional unreasonable diatribe because, after all, they like you regardless and everyone gets upset and wound up every now and then?
Or is it we really aren’t as bad as we think we are, and in thinking we must be, we’re being as *****y to ourselves as we think we are to everyone else?
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now after reading this article, i realize how multiple negs need to be used in succession..like 4-5 for those certain *****es... damn the mystery method seems tight.
Part 2: *****y Women
The flip side to the “nice guy” mentality is, of course, the “*****” stereotype. I’m going to ignore the “women who like to be abused” bull****, as well as the “nice women who get overlooked” bull****, because I think both of those are pretty cut and dry: “women who like to be abused” don’t really exist, although women who have bad taste in men do; and as far as “nice women who get overlooked,” that statement translates to either the woman is either plain or pretty enough, but not “ultra feminine,” so her prettiness goes unnotices, or else she’s simply a quiet woman who goes about her own business and tends not to get “boy crazy,” in my experience these women don’t date a lot but usually end up with someone who thinks their grand. Anyway, I’m not “nice” in that way, so I don’t have a lot to say about it. Instead I’ll discuss one of my questions: Why do so many men like *****y women?Again, there are different things that can fall under the category of a “*****y women.”
1. There are, without a doubt, women who are genuinely mean people; and often these women are the *****iest to other women, but tend to play up to men, because on some level being a “*****” is all about power. I have to admit that these kind of women usually don’t piss me off quite as much as ******* guys do, because I think I get where they’re coming from, and while I think that they suck, Ican’t bring myself to hate them for trying to pursue their own self interest. Really, I think these women aren’t all that intelligent, they may be smart enough in a clever, bookish logic way, but their inability to empathize with others or consider the complexities of power and self advancement strikes me as being close minded and blind.
2. Women who are abusive. Nothing much to say about this subject. These women treat the people in their life like ****. Really cut and dry, self explanatory.
3. Strong women, as we all know, all get called “*****” sooner or later. We’ve all heard the little jingle about how “***** = Babe in Total Control of Herself.” The reclaiming of “*****,” I think, refers primarily to this sense: it’s a preemptive move that women use to take the wind out of the misogynistic sail.
4. Women who are *****y in private relationships. This is what I’m most interested in, and I’ll admit that it’s because, to some extent, this is me. However, not in an abusive type manner, as in scenerio number two. So anyway, women who are *****y in private relationships are often times described as “high-strung” or “high maintenance.” Up to a point, I think these women are good people for solid, self-confident guys, we have a clear sense of boundaries, we’re direct, we’re not conflict averse, we don’t waste time hinting that something’s wrong…all in all pretty straight forward. But I’ll admit that sometimes those skills get misapplied, and I’ll end up being incredibly rigid over something that really isn’t at all worth the trouble, something that’s usually simply an easier to deal with version of something bigger that I’m worried about. Like, and I think a lot of students tend to do this, perhaps especially woment. My stress over “having” to work on some big research paper will somehow be transferred into having a fit over the fact that my roommate didn’t vacuum. I think this is often (not always, or perhaps not even usually) a problem with high achieving woment: we put very high, maybe even unrealistic expectations on ourselves, and we have a certain amount of anger at situations where we perceive that our achievments or efforts are undervaluened. Really, it boils down to the fact that we would like to be more assertive but can’t because after all “nice girls” aren’t pushy…well at least not in public, and to detour being labeled abrasive or lacking tact. So in general, there is the constant stress of trying to balance ambition without seeming abrasive or rude. So, I think (and by now you’re either realizing that this is an elaborate rationalization or else and elaborate piece of self analysis, or both) that this stress gets internalized and comes out in private relationships, as extreme impatience with significant others on whom we place a lot of expectations for support that we don’t feel is forthcoming anywhere else.
So let me clearify, I don’t think that being a ***** is entirely okay. I think that certain level os personal *****iness” is fine, and I suspect a lot of men are attracted to strong, assertive, ambitious women, which is of course the simple answer to the “why do men like *****y women” question. But I wonder about the men who live with those women who are “*****y” in private relationships. What’s the attraction? I admit I don’t think I could do it. Is it that decent, confident guys are sure enough of themselves that they can live with women who get a little overwrought because they know it’s nothing personal? Is it that on some level they understand the internal tention of being ambitious and being “nice”? Is it actually that they like the 80-90hat’s strong confident, and assertive, and frankly really hate the 10-20hat’s just flat out *****y but figure that on balance the good outweights the bad? Is it a really sweet and generous expression of the fact that decent guys really truly do like women, and they’re just not all that fazed by anger or the occasional unreasonable diatribe because, after all, they like you regardless and everyone gets upset and wound up every now and then?
Or is it we really aren’t as bad as we think we are, and in thinking we must be, we’re being as *****y to ourselves as we think we are to everyone else?
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now after reading this article, i realize how multiple negs need to be used in succession..like 4-5 for those certain *****es... damn the mystery method seems tight.
thefuture
Don Juan
***** = b.i.t.c.h
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.