"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Nice-guy who lost his game.

Reptile

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Hi. I'll go straight to the point...

I'm a decent/good looking nice-guy (22 y/o). Girls looks at me and smiles, they are clearly interested, especially at the gym and the clubs, but I got ZERO game.
I workout 6 times a week and taking care of my hygien, and even a friend who's getting laid every month with different girls tells me "you shouldn't have so much problem getting laid as you have, you look way better than me".
Therefor I don't think my problem is the look but it's my personality. I'm too nice. Yesterday at the club (I was sober) is a good example on how whipped I am:
*Girl was drinking a whole drink very fast at the dancefloor, I said "very good!", she then turns around and take my white shirt and dry of her breast with it.
*One girl looked at me half the night and seemed to be interested, so I was thinking "whatehell" and went to dance with her, she looked at me like I was some weirdo and went back to her friend.
*Girl was dancing with a guy, then she saw me... She was going to me and looking at my eyes all the time and smiled, I did the same, when she got to me.. she turned around and walked to the other guy again.

Nowadays I don't speak to any girls on my sparetime because I'm sure I will get stuck in the friendzone. I'm not aggresive anymore, I have totally lost the game I had before, I get used by girls like this on the club yesterday.
How do I get out if it? Link to threads or articles who looks like my situation would be great help, and I also want your own advice too!

Tired of being a nice-guy...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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IronDJ

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Reptile said:
Hi. I'll go straight to the point...


*One girl looked at me half the night and seemed to be interested, so I was thinking "whatehell" and went to dance with her, she looked at me like I was some weirdo and went back to her friend.
I can help with this one. This likely mean you suck at dancing, and you're probably aware of it. It's something to work on, if you want to develop your club game.

The above situation is very frustrating, and I speak from experience. It shows how fickle girls really are, as the girl was interested in you one second and lost interest the next.

Keep working at it!
 

NobodyCares1

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IronDJ said:
I can help with this one. This likely mean you suck at dancing, and you're probably aware of it. It's something to work on, if you want to develop your club game.

The above situation is very frustrating, and I speak from experience. It shows how fickle girls really are, as the girl was interested in you one second and lost interest the next.

Keep working at it!
Yup, I have the same problem... they are usually interested but once I start dancing with them their IL goes down...

Though it's not as much of a problem if I talk with them a while first and game them a bit before dancing. Though there were times that I could pull off chicks just by dancing with them... maybe because I didn't care how I dance and was really drunk.
 

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Reptile,

You're looking for girls in places that, I think, you are not in your element. Do you have interesting hobbies? Use that to your advantage. I find that the club, for me, is a poor place to spend my time. I get much better results nearly anywhere else.

I've picked up on girls at fast food restaurants, concerts, pubs, online dating, pizza parlors, hell even at the home improvement store. Clubs in my area are extremely loud, chaotic, full of sausages and low-class broads who enjoy that environment. I'm also a terrible dancer.

For example, a girl I picked up on was working at my local Lowe's I'm doing renovations to my place, and needed some advice on paint selection. I went and found a hot girl working, and asked for her assistance. She was happy to help and we talked for about 10 minutes. Based on her demeanor, lack of a wedding ring and our friendly banter, I could tell she was interested. I told her I was going to a local pub later that night and she should come out. She was game.

No need to deal with dumb broads and their Beta orbiters, shout over ear-splitting music or pay for ridiculously priced drinks.

Of course, I've had plenty of rejection. Just recently I picked up on a broad at a Burger King. She was hot, skinny, no ring and early 20's. We had some friendly talk so I invited her out for drinks. She said "I can't, maybe next time" I kept pushing and she finally revealed "I can't because I have a fiance." I asked "well, where's the ring?"

She said that BK doesn't allow rings for sanitation reasons. Turns out, that's a genuine BK policy and common in the food industry. Do'h!

Anyways, pick up on girls in places other than the club. Go to the bookstore and find a girl in a subject aisle you like. Strike up a conversation and ask her for a recommendation. If she's friendly, ask her out for drinks, coffee or, even better, something exciting like go-kart racing.

Godspeed, man!
 

Reptile

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NobodyCares1 said:
Yup, I have the same problem... they are usually interested but once I start dancing with them their IL goes down...

Though it's not as much of a problem if I talk with them a while first and game them a bit before dancing.
Though there were times that I could pull off chicks just by dancing with them... maybe because I didn't care how I dance and was really drunk.
This. Spot on to me, it's easier to talk with them and they actually stay interested. I guess you are right: I s*ck big time at dancing. How to improve "clubdance"? I though it was just moving with the music, and I love the music at the clubs.

Sik, I hear you out. The clubs are not the best places, girls are drunk and just wanna have a fun time. Also a good story, the rejections and you still don't give up.
I live in a kinda small town, if I would go for girls at BK or such it would probably have be in a bigger town. My biggest hobby is the gym/working out, and girls are looking at me there, but it feels silly to approach when they are lifting weights and running.

My biggest problem is not really places to Find girls, I've got many friends and they have female friends etc etc. It's my p*ssy-personality that needs to change, I wanna stop being a coward and respect myself little more, not let a girl dry of her spilled drink on my shirt. How am I gonna stop this AFC-behaviour?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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