NICE! Finally had some sucess this weekend.

[Droz88]

Approached 4-5 girls and got an email address and a phone number. Man I have been reading my ass off on this DJ stuff and i'm REALLY starting to see a improvement in myself.

Girl 1:
Yesterday I was at the library and tried taking a picture of my new haircut but it was kind of hard. So I asked a pretty cute girl sitting across from me to do it and our interaction went well. At first we both stood up but I pointed to her chair and told her "no we can sit down" and we sat down. She treid taking the pics but they weren't coming out to well so I started making small talk. The IOI's she gave me were: 1. when I asked her for her name, she reciprocated by asking for mine. 2. When I told her where I live in the city she again reciprocated by telling me where she lived. I found out she was a nurse and I am also in the medical field so we had that in common. The convo went good/ok. At the end of it I asked her if she had email and said maybe we could hang out before I leave as i'll be in town for 2 more months. She gave it to me and I said bye and went and sat back down across the table and went back to working on my computer. I put headphones in and basically paid no more attention to her for the next hour or so. Then as I left I went over to her and called her by her first name and told her it was nice meeting her as I stuck out my hand for a gentle handshake. At the same time told her she had beautiful eyes which I didn't notice earlier. Since they were blue and so were mine I said, "Mine are blue too, so I know what it's like to be behind blue eyes. Ok i'll see you!" She smirked and said "bye" but I don't know if she got the reference to the song by The Who.

Girl 2:
Went to walmart and got rejected by one girls and semi rejected by another. Then when I went to the cashier to buy my stuff I noticed she was a damn fine sexy black girl with a huge chest. When it was my turn I said to her "how's it goin?" She said "fine". Then I said something that will probably be moment I reflect on where I changed with women. I told her "damn you look good". She mumbled something and I said "what?" She said "I don't think I heard you right.". I said, "I said damn you look good". She said thank you and was smiling. Then I introduced myself and so did she. Then I said "I know your name is on your nametag but I wanted you to tell it". She smiled and chuckled a little. Then I said, "it's a good thing wal-mart doesn't have a policy against employees dating customer." And she said "yeah it is." Then I told her, "why don't you give me your number and I'll take you out for a drink sometime." To my surprise, she said "ok" and then printed a blank recepiept, wrote her name and number, and handed it to me along with my receipt for my groceries. As I looked at my receipt I told her that "i think you double charged me on some things" and she just chuckled. After I got all my groceries in my cart I said "so do i have everying? I don't want to have to come back here...well I do (kinda pointed and her and smiling)". And then I walked out. This was the easiest, smoothest, and shortest pickup I ever had. Wow there is not a doubt about it anymore...if you want to succeed you need to be sexual.

Any thought, opinions, criticisms? If anyone can tell me a good way to handle contacting them and setting up a time and place to meet that would be helpful. I always mess up at this part.

 

[Droz88]

Well went back out to a clothes store and a book store and got rejected by two more store employees.

The only at old navy was 30 y/o and married but I was laying it on her strong. She told me I was smooth, she likes me being tall, and she likes my persistence but she is a married woman and is faithful to her husband. Later on she asked me what my age was and I told her "I was young enough to do it oftern and old enough to do it right" to which she seemed to take offense and said "i'm not sure what to say to that". So I backed off after this.

The one at the bookstore seemed to have a little interest but a few times in our conversation she would suddenly said "i have to go I'll be right back" and then she didn't come back possibly because she was busy or because she wasn't interested. Anyway before I left I was going to ask her for her number but just didn't feel like she had interest and the fact that she worked there made me feel like I should just let it go. So I just walked out the front door without saying anything to her and went home.

Ego got a little crushed by the second rejection but I'm done hitting on store employees. I just couldn't resist since I got the phone number from the walmart girl.

 

[The Gambler]

That Wal-Mart FR is the stuff of legends.... Congrats on that.

My personal opinion is not to focus too much on women who are at work (this is not a blanket statement, but you need to be aware of a few things -- she may be in a hurry, may have work-related problems on her mind, may be afraid the boss is watching, etc.) Also, I personally would not consider it a "rejection" when a married woman is not interested.... Good approach practice and experience, yes, but not a true rejection.

Looking forward to the Wal-Mart update....

The Gambler

 

[spang]

damn you look good! lol im gonna try this. hopefully i dont get smacked.

 

[Droz88]

It was a ballsy move but nonetheless you gotta have balls and talk to women this way it seems. I got the idea from a self confidence tape where the guy actually tells them that they have "great tits" or a "great ass". I pullled the "great ass" one on a girl on POF and I have a lunch date with her in about 30 minutes.

 

[Eph]

I wouldn't really consider chicks giving you their name in return an ioi. And as for the walmart chick, most black girls have huge chests AND asses, but nice nonetheless

 

[omega05]

I dont know about getting an email address in this day and age.

Also work on the walmart girl

 

[Droz88]

Christ I know i've said this before but I have to say it again...I am fvcking done with online dating. I've never had success meeting a girl off of the internet. They turn out to be a lot fatter or uglier than in the pics they post and this was was pretty ugly although it was hard to tell from the pics. She had very little personality and and all of her stories were lame and boring. The whole time I was with her I was thinking "wow I am way out of her league and can't wait for this to be over". That must be how HB's feel when they are out with a beta AFC.

 

[Droz88]

Yes I want to work on the walmart girl now. I am thinking of sending her a text but not sure what to say exactly. "Hey sexy, it's Droz88 from walmart". Would that do as a start?

 

[Alvafe]

hmm since i'm not fan of texting, I say call her and do something with her

 

[Droz88]

Well texted her and said "Hey Sexy. It's Droz88".
Also emailed the girl from the library.

I'll update if anything worthwhile happens.

 

[Droz88]

It's been 1 day and no response from either of them. Wow what a disappointing feeling.

 

[Droz88]

Nevermind. 5 more approaches today. Rejected by 2 married women and 1 milf (she didn't actually reject me, she just kind of pulled away after telling me that she's probably old enough to be my mom to which I replied "hopefully"...after this she pulled away as she laughed and I cut the pursuit). Then talked to 2 younger ones at the library and got both of their numbers. I asked one of them to lunch and she said "I have a boyfriend but maybe"...still gave me her number though. I'm worried about this one she may have been under 18. The other one was a damn fine younger one too (she at least told me she was 18 years old though).

 

[WorkingDJ]

Curious, why did you ask for email?

 

[Droz88]

Curious, why did you ask for email?

Read it in Double Your Dating as a technique. Deangelo described it as being just as effective as getting a phone number if used properly so I decided to give it a try. However that book was written in 2002 before texting became huge so I'll probably never try it again lol. Her email was a gmail account and her gmail profile pic came up after I sent it. She is pretty gorgeous!

 

[Buddha_Mind]

Email isn't always terrible..a way to get a convo going to build rapport..

Dude, keep at it! Rejection is just a part of it. Don't let it be your sum-all!

 

[Droz88]

Email isn't always terrible..a way to get a convo going to build rapport..

Dude, keep at it! Rejection is just a part of it. Don't let it be your sum-all!

Definitely bro. Hopefully she responds. My goal is 2-3 approaches per day. Although I'm starting to see success and getting numbers, I fear this is just the beginning and I have a lot to learn once I actually start dating. At the age of 24 I feel pretty behind with this stuff but nonetheless I have no choice but to forget what happened in the past and move forward.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

First off big props on tackling your fears head on and starting to approach.

That right there is a HUGE first step many can never make.

Flat out your going to get rejected a lot right now. Why? Well simply because this is new to you and you are kinda figuring it out as you go. Meaning you are learning how to become congruent with all the material you have read and if you keep acting like a confident man who gets women, and practicing you will soon become just that.

Couple bits of advice:

-Your not building any comfort in your pick ups. As your realizing getting #'s doesn't really mean much if anything if they don't reply to your contact attempts.

If you create attraction AND build comfort, then use some light kino you will get a much better response when you reach out to these girls.

A lot of guys over-analyze saying "you should never text," while others will say "girls only text now days" etc etc.

Guess what? It doesn't matter. The response you get whether you text, call or hell even send a carrier pigeon to deliver a message to the target girl will get the same positive response IF you do your job right in the initial PU.

Think of the lack of response similar to a job application. You filled it out, shook the hiring manager's hand and if he felt like you were a top candidate he would def schedule an interview to offer you the job when you called right?

Same principle applies here.

If you do your job right, are congruent with your character then the girl will be at the edge of her seat waiting to hear from you again.

Going hyper sexual doesn't work well unless the girl is highly physically attracted to you.

Lastly try and PU chicks while they aren't working. Stop girls when your walking down the street, in the mall, at the library etc etc. When you talk to them and hit on them when they're working its hard to differentiate between genuine interest and her being "nice" as part of her job.

PSS: Don't be so focused on doing things in order. Meaning if the girl is showing high interest in the moment, go take her somewhere on the fly right then and there instead of being so fixated on following a set sequence of 1) open 2) flirt 3) # close.

Keep at it, you will improve dramatically the more you practice esp in the beginning. You will also notice that instead of you thinking "oh I hope this works out," you will start thinking "this girl is going to be on my nutzzz."


Good luck and keep updating us.






PIMP

 

[Buddha_Mind]

Definitely bro. Hopefully she responds. My goal is 2-3 approaches per day. Although I'm starting to see success and getting numbers, I fear this is just the beginning and I have a lot to learn once I actually start dating. At the age of 24 I feel pretty behind with this stuff but nonetheless I have no choice but to forget what happened in the past and move forward.

PIMP's advice is SOLID and that was kind of him to take the time to write so much. I enjoyed reading that Pimp-sicle, thanks man.

Brother, it has been a struggle for me too--it is a process, and old habits die hard, but you can create new ones. Remember that failure can be success--because we learn from the mistakes and it makes us better--don't let your failures make you think YOU are a failure...its all a process...think of it this way: every failure will bring you more knowledge, more experience and closer to your ultimate success.

2-3x approaches a day I call the '3-a-day technique', lol. When I lived in a bigger area I practiced this--its a great way to keep pushing yourself! You don't even have to close with every woman, but getting yourself in the habit of interacting/approaching 3 women a day will help...wish I was near you man I'd go out with you! Motivating!

Some paths are long ones my man, but all you gotta focus on is one step at a time!

 

[Droz88]

First off big props on tackling your fears head on and starting to approach.

That right there is a HUGE first step many can never make.

Flat out your going to get rejected a lot right now. Why? Well simply because this is new to you and you are kinda figuring it out as you go. Meaning you are learning how to become congruent with all the material you have read and if you keep acting like a confident man who gets women, and practicing you will soon become just that.

Couple bits of advice:

-Your not building any comfort in your pick ups. As your realizing getting #'s doesn't really mean much if anything if they don't reply to your contact attempts.

If you create attraction AND build comfort, then use some light kino you will get a much better response when you reach out to these girls.

A lot of guys over-analyze saying "you should never text," while others will say "girls only text now days" etc etc.

Guess what? It doesn't matter. The response you get whether you text, call or hell even send a carrier pigeon to deliver a message to the target girl will get the same positive response IF you do your job right in the initial PU.

Think of the lack of response similar to a job application. You filled it out, shook the hiring manager's hand and if he felt like you were a top candidate he would def schedule an interview to offer you the job when you called right?

Same principle applies here.

If you do your job right, are congruent with your character then the girl will be at the edge of her seat waiting to hear from you again.

Going hyper sexual doesn't work well unless the girl is highly physically attracted to you.

Lastly try and PU chicks while they aren't working. Stop girls when your walking down the street, in the mall, at the library etc etc. When you talk to them and hit on them when they're working its hard to differentiate between genuine interest and her being "nice" as part of her job.

PSS: Don't be so focused on doing things in order. Meaning if the girl is showing high interest in the moment, go take her somewhere on the fly right then and there instead of being so fixated on following a set sequence of 1) open 2) flirt 3) # close.

Keep at it, you will improve dramatically the more you practice esp in the beginning. You will also notice that instead of you thinking "oh I hope this works out," you will start thinking "this girl is going to be on my nutzzz."


Good luck and keep updating us.






PIMP

Update:

Called the walmart girl and left a voicemail, if I don't hear back i'm done with her. Finally got an email response from the girl from the library...she even added me on facebook! I'm going to email her back tomorrow. I texted both of the young 18 year old girls today...one claimed I had a wrong number and the other I just got back from a date with. Date went well except that even though I felt confident I was still overdoing it wayyy too much. I was talking a lot and laid down as many intelligent and creative/funny things as I could. This definitely did the trick as we made out lightly at the end of the date but man it takes a lot of energy out of you. There has to be a method where you are way more relaxed and still get the same effectiveness with attraction. I tried getting her to talk but she didn't have much to say. 18 years old, claims to only have had 1 boyfriend for a 3 month relationship, never really partied or drank, says that people tell her she's shy but that she doesn't feel shy, and she is totally totally hot. At the end of the date she said she we should totally do this again sometime. She stopped me while we were making out and said "That's enough for tonight. We can do more but I want to get to know you bette.r" After we made out a little I smacked her ass and told her to drive safe, go home, and have a good night.

Made 5 more approaches today and got 2 more numbers. One of them said she is starting a new job next week so she'll be busy. She said "I'm totally not trying to blow you off already but I will be starting a new job" to which I said "it's ok we'll make something work". The other girl, when I asked her if she wanted to grab lunch sometime said "maybe" but gave me her number anyway.

PIMP, thank you for your evaluation as it has already been helpful. It hit me when I read that one of the factors that might be missing is building comfort at the same time. I definitely think that's why I'm getting hesitation from these girls. Do you know of any good guide that explains how building comfort can be done? I do not recall reading it in DYD or anything but will take another look into it. Again, thank you and please don't hesitate to give more criticism.