"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Newsflash - YOU are NOT the PRIZE, and the best women DONT want you!!

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DonDan said:
I love how karmaSutra described himself to prove toughloves theory.

How novel, this coming from a fvcking puss filled pipstick who can't even get a woman working the drive thru at Wendys to look at him without convulsing.

This from the ****s' own hole:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=116413

Choke on it crater face.

And then get a dictionary. Open it. Read it.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Quote of Genesis.

Obsidian,

If you want to quote scripture, then you have to abide by what the scripture says. Doesn't the bible say I have to get married first, have a wife, then I have a cause to leave home so I can be with my wife? If anything, that passage merely says it's a bad idea for a married couple to live in the same home as their parents, and anything read further into that is interpretation that can go anywhere.

I've known an Italian friend of mine that lives with his parents, dated quite a few girls off the internet/lavalife, and found the right girl off the internet/lavalife and is planning to get married soon as he's going on a honeymoon right now.

I'm seeing someone now in face, and guess what? Yeah, I live with my parents and my mom likes this girl I'm seeing...and guess what? My mom's right. She has my interests at heart - and aside from the fact she's from Nigaria Africa, my mom says ok, go ahead with it anyway. But if it was a girl of disrepute, has a child, or a dabbler then my mom would not be comfortable with it - I dated a dabbler type of girl who was reading wierd books, and guess waht - that one, as based on my mom's predictions, ended very badly.
So, in matters of love, my mom has proven to be right most of the time.


Obesian said:
Take charge of your own life! Don't let yourself continue to be ruled by a woman. This corruption violates the Natural Order of Things. Step out of the Matrix, man!
I cant until I make good savings and have lots of money in the bank, then I can move out for a trial of three months, it is my intention to do that as soon as I make a deal or two more.
 

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For me, the original poster is RIGHT. I dunno where the community gets these ideas i think i got it from Dyd/Deangelo, the idea of intense faking it til u make it. The idea that if i just think that i'm the prize than i am. And yet a loser nerd thinking he's the prize in the real world is just a joke.

I personally am now very motivated by looking at things in the most real way possible, negatives and positives. Mindlessly thinking ur the prize can lead to complaceny, from my experience anyway.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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KarmaSutra its pretty flattering that u went thru my threads to find that, haha. But listen, ill make you a deal.

Post your pic.

Ill post mine.

That simple.

Dont be afraid now.
 

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If you don't THINK you're the PRIZE, then your target will not want you, even if you really are the PRIZE. Women don't like humble men.
 
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I like the "prizes" in Cracker Jack boxes of caramel corn!
 

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I dunno where the community gets these ideas i think i got it from Dyd/Deangelo, the idea of intense faking it til u make it.
Aristotle said that to acquire virtue, you must mimick virtuous people until the virtue just comes naturally.

Besides that, confidence is what really attracts women more than anything else. I don't know where the op got the crazy idea that being desirable to women is some truly objective thing anyway. If you think you are the prize and you act like the prize, you (for the most part), become the prize.


My mom's right. She has my interests at heart ...But if it was a girl of disrepute, has a child, or a dabbler then my mom would not be comfortable with it
Hell, you don't need mom to tell you that much: You've already got LMS, Pook, me, etc all telling you the same thing. Wise up. If you still need your mom to make your dating decisions for you, how much of a man can you really be?
 
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Luke Skywalker said:
My mom's the prize and dont you forget that. Any woman in my life is subject to my mom's laws.
AHAHAHAH momma's boy... how cute... and your 31... something is wrong with you if you let your mom decide what kind of girls you date.

Tough Love great post! Way too many lozers think that they can act like one without actually doing anything. It's like the fat people who think that this diet pill or that specific workout will make them lose weight. You have to actually PUT IN EFFORT and TIME if you want to accomplish something. Then again a prize aka alpha male wouldn't care if a chick doesn't realize his greatness, it's her own stupidity and loss.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The original post is bogus, sorry. It makes the fallacious assumption that just because someone who isn't the prize tries to think they are, they aren't doing anything else to improve their situation.

Are there any advice posts/manuals/ebooks out there that state simply "think of yourself as the prize, and even if you sit on your ass all day you'll become it"?

No. For those of us whom are facing the double edged sword of having disavantages both outside and inside the head, the whole move to becoming a DJ is double pronged. You have to think of yourself as the prize AND take steps in the real world to become that prize. One without the other is useless.
 

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Yeaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

ToughLove said:
she is F.U.C.K.I.N.G the guy who is THE PRIZE, while 10 other losers sit there on their lonely asses and call her an attention wh0re for flaking on them


DO NOT JUST THINK YOU ARE THE PRIZE, BUT ACTUALLY BECOME THE PRIZE

tough love hurts huh?

ucour uncour uncour uncour uncour uncour (how u spell that anywayz)...

Wow, that was such a good post, I want to rewind and watch it again... and im not being fecisesous... its the truth... do u think a girl flakes on brad pit... its the truth...

TRUTH HURTS :clap:
 

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realsmoothie said:
For those of us whom are facing the double edged sword of having disavantages both outside and inside the head, .
look at hu hefner.. he is old outside and slow inside (the head)... but he made it.... fcking young blondes...
 

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DonDan said:
KarmaSutra its pretty flattering that u went thru my threads to find that, haha. But listen, ill make you a deal.

Post your pic.

Ill post mine.

That simple.

Dont be afraid now.
You're an idiot and attention slvt. Worse than a chick because you don't even have an agenda. I'll refresh your pitiful memory:

DonDan said:
So i cant get jobs or women now... I am seriously needing help..........i want to cure this... I dont get it, i can just be there sitting there listening to someone, even someone i am absolutely comfortable with, ANYONE, and my expression and my look just looks sad or pissed off.... I want to seem happy.
Sounds like a little b!tch to me?

Have you even bothered to look at my profile you fvcktard? Get some Proactive and some lotion and jack yourself into oblivion.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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this is something i realized last night..

i was about ready to try to start picking up again since my last girlfriend ditched me for her ex-boyfriend and then it occured to me

i was not the prize.

i saw these 2 chicks on the street... tried my self-perceived street expert pick up routine and when i totally crashed and burned

i was not the prize.

my mentality when trying to pick them up was that I needed to build up to some situation where I could safely close instead of just doing it.

i was not the prize.

PRIZE is to have a HIGH VALUE.

yes the truth... is that we were perceived as LOW VALUE which is why a lot of us get rejected, dumped,

but...value is self-imposed. it is within all of us naturally we don't need to read books to get it. we don't need anything to gain it , it is just showed. but most of the time we're just too ***** or just plain dumb to think of a way to see us as having the high value... we're caught up in the "how do i get this to work?" when we should be just doing ****

just do ****

and do it quick....before your thoughts catch up to you and tell you that you can't do it.
 

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DonDan said:
KarmaSutra its pretty flattering that u went thru my threads to find that, haha. But listen, ill make you a deal.

Post your pic.

Ill post mine.

That simple.

Dont be afraid now.
into hot men are you?
don't bark up karma's tree, hes not into guys.
 

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penkitten said:
into hot men are you?
don't bark up karma's tree, hes not into guys.
I swear I hear Rod Stewart singing faintly on the breeze . . .

"Have I told . . . you lately . . . that I love you?"

:cheer:
 

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Hahahahahahahahaha

Obsidian said:
Wrong. It's possible to be the Prize but still fail with women because you don't realize how great you are.
Does brad pit not know his a prize...

does top cruize think his not a prize...

does roy jones jr think his not a prize (maybe was conserned when HE LOST, bust still ****y and thinks his a prize)...

DUDE REALIZE THE TRUTH... ur leaning into "beauty is on the inside" , "i am great, even though no girl thinks so..hahah"

lol :moon:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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