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If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

NEWSFLASH, All girls are not the same!

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This will come as a shocker to a lot of you guys, but the entire female race does not fit into one specific mold. The point of being a don (in the relationship aspect) is to sort through the ****ty girls until you find a quality one. And when you find a truly quality girl she probably won't put out on the first three dates.

I know when I first came to this site I was looking for a way to cope with the loss of an ex girlfriend. And to find a new better quality girl. But when I discovered pickup and self improvement my mindset immediately went to trying to seduce as much poon as humanely possible. But the problem with this that isn't discussed on here much is the majority of these rules/tricks taught on here about speed seduction will NOT get you a quality girl you would truly want to be in a ltr with.

If she cusses like a sailor, has a higher alcohol tolerance than you do and you have a feeling in your gut that she'll be a nasty freak in bed then she's probably a slut bro.

I mean yeah its great to get great head from a freak but if you are truly an intellectual being who treasures quality time and having a connection with someone then these aren't the type of girls you are looking for.

Now don't misinterpret what I am saying here, being alpha and leading the way in a relationship with a quality girl will work (assuming you have everything else together such as looks,social proof, and you know she enjoys being around you). However just because you aren't getting laid in the first three dates with a quality girl does not mean you should next her. You are going to have to work to earn anything worth having.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Sorry guys I'm a.d.d as hell, I know my writing is choppy and scatter brained.
 

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Good post, how is it going with the LTR? I just finished my fourth date with a girl and I have only kissed her but her sexual past is non existent.
 

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NEWSFLASH, All girls are not the same!
How the hell would you know?


Here's 2 more questions, if they're not all the same how come I can bang them by using the same game for the past 11 years?

Thirdly, how come teenage boys always make these gay "she's a unique snowflake" threads? wtf is going on here, I thought the pendulum was starting to swing back?

Your right though they are not all the same, works out to about 1 out of 150ish? now are worth a second look (my wing thinks it's closer to 500, this is a hot debate btw), and like my man Diesel says:
Once in a blue moon, you'll actually meet a girl who is actually worth some kind of effort. But this is a very dicy judgment call, and I would assume most of you guys are too inexperienced with women and stlll prone to mushy touchy-feely bullshyt emotions to make this distinction yet. You have to muck through a lot of sluts and ****-teases to find some quality
He's talking about guys like you sorry mate, who lets face it have trench time and numbers so low it's more than likely you have never even met the few that genuinely are quality. Buying you a coke doesn't count either.

Here have a look:http://www.j-walk.com/other/goodwife/images/goodwifeguide.gif

(Marriage aside) Unless your game is tight enough to pull these types of rare diamonds (in the west) you need to stfu and stop talking among men as if you are one.
 
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Thirdly, how come teenage boys always make these gay "she's a unique snowflake" threads? wtf is going on here, I thought the pendulum was starting to swing back?
Not sure, but 19 y.os who know everything have been a constant throughout history regardless of which way the pendulum swings.
 

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In my experience, unless she's religious, all they care about is money and sex.

There is no way any girl will stick with you if it doesn't benefit, and she is not going to benefit from words "I love you, I miss you". Money and sex is the only thing they will risk things for.
 

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tl;dr
 

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DJ Bax said:
And when you find a truly quality girl she probably won't put out on the first three dates.
Nonsense, most of the quality girls I have gone out with on several dates or ended up having a relationship with, I slept with on the first or second date. If both parties are mature and decent adults who can handle it, then sex is no problem and can be enjoyed without worries. It doesn't mean the girl is of less quality, it means she enjoys sex and knows it won't lead to problems when she has it with me.

Maybe it is different when you are nineteen.

And yes, there are more than 3.5 billion women in the world, so I think it is fair to say everyone realizes that not every one of them has the same personality. You don't have to say that it is a shocker to the forum.
 

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Every woman is the same, in the deepest even every man are the same. Now the difference between 17-19 year old teen girls and 26+ women is that most teens have not had sex at that time and they consider sex to be something holy. Like in the holy bible is described: sex only to marriaged people. So for teens If they have never had it, I have come to realise they will be very careful, to whom they lose their virginity, this of course translated to being "quality girl" the one who doesn't give easily, the one who you must earn to have it. it is hard to earn, so of course it is worth having rite. Dating with 26 y.o+ is completely different. They don't feel that 'must lose virginity to some special' condition. they have moved past that. So sex is cool. Physical sex is a cool release, no problem.

But I would move a little bit higher, sex with love is much more significant. If you are making love, you feel a kind of relax in your being, your soul. If it is sex with a beloved one, it is much more beautiful than just 'date'.

Also, you always feel much more love towards virgins, or teens. That is why it is very easy to feel a special kindness in them.
 

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OP is adorable, ain't he? Not even old enough to buy a drink (in the US, at least) and he comes to tell us all that NAWALT!!!

Guess what, not all politicians are dishonest, and not all poker hands are played the same way, and not all gardens grow exactly the same way.

That said, there are patterns, averages, and consistencies and these fit MOST cases.

Same with women. They are not all exactly the same, but most of them fit within the same curve and to understand them and interact with them in way that serves a guy's best interests, you better understand those characteristics they share.

Guys study game to improve their average and those who are good at it will tell you straight up that most women are like that....
 

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Nah bro. All girls think more emotionally than logically.

And Olivia now a days it isn't like that. I just turned 18 so all the girls i interact with are from the ranges of 16-19 and you'd be surprised just how many of them are virgins. Most girls these days give it up like crazy. Sex isn't something holy to them any more. Its rare to find a teen that is a virgin now. I know 18 year olds with more than 10 sexual partners and i know some who have kids already.
 

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Women are like cars. They all come in different colors and shapes, they have various features and even a lack of features, but when you get right down to it, it's still a four stroke engine at the core. If it was abused, there's going to be damage done to the engine.

Women have differnet personalities, different tastes, different logical goals, different living situations, and different physical appearances. But every single woman's emotional circuitry is wired the same. Emotional current always goes down the same path and creates the same results - unless she's got some deep issues. The ones with deep issues will NOT put out by the 3rd or 4th date.

The common denominator does not lie. If you're doing something that works most of the time, then the exception is the problem.
 

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Nah bro. All girls think more emotionally than logically.

And Olivia now a days it isn't like that. I just turned 18 so all the girls i interact with are from the ranges of 16-19 and you'd be surprised just how many of them are virgins. Most girls these days give it up like crazy. Sex isn't something holy to them any more. Its rare to find a teen that is a virgin now. I know 18 year olds with more than 10 sexual partners and i know some who have kids already.
That is som weird changes. So religions no longer plays a big part in kids or teens life. I know a few girls tough who has only had once and one who 'said' will no have sex untill marriage.

But meh, just like Desdinova said, women are deep down the same. If we look very deeply, deep down evevry human beign is the same. Now we are made of 50% woman ovum and 50% semen. There will be some difference as fasr as physical is concerned, but physical is very superficial and there is much more to human beign. Now maybe the man inside will dominate the physical part, but every man has loving qualifies, accept it or no, but that is true. I see men crying, being passive, loving, enjoying, chilling, that is all feminine quality.

So women might have different personalities, religions, cultures and that, but you just have a to change a little bit on the surface of your game to play with different women. But the ultimate basic of game remais the same'. cultivate a lot of attraction with less rapport.
 

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Hey tits, you have been on this site for what 13 years now? Glad that you are a man among boys, I hope I can be like you one day mate. :cheer: If you have discovered the answer to the game and know everything then what are you doing sticking around here and trashing guys 18 years you're minor like me?

"(Marriage aside) Unless your game is tight enough to pull these types of rare diamonds (in the west) you need to stfu and stop talking among men as if you are one."

You sound like you have been screwed over by a couple of girls who you truly felt feelings for and are now extremely bitter, I hope you can one day get over that man. I have no experience in the eastern part of the world and I never claim to, nor do I claim to be a "man among boys." :crackup: You mad bro? I'm glad that your a keyboard warrior and you feel a lot better about yourself telling a bunch of keyboard warriors how to be "Men"

Hey Jitterbug where did I ever claim to know "everything"? However if you do and are willing to criticize me, what the f*uck? are you doing on this site? I would think that someone who knows everything would know something better to do than to flame me on this site at 3:30 am?

Trump, yes she is religious, not that it makes any difference. I myself am also a devout christian. I'm not going to tell her "I love you, I miss you." she will risk being hurt by me because of the fact that I am the most intriguing person she has ever met thus far into her short lifespan. However her and her friends also know that I am a man, therefore I am not going to screw her over without her deserving it.

PairRoyalFlush, whether or not she is quality I am not going to change the way I act towards her, she will see me as the alpha in the group irregardless of who I am around. I am not going to over night change who I am and all of a sudden cease to be alpha and become an afc simply because of the fact I have identified her to be a quality broad.

Wolfgang D, I have no idea how old you are. But I'm not referring to the modern day party girl who goes out and parties the majority of the week during summer vacation. At my current age group the majority of girls are not where you are currently at. I know there are far more women in the world than I could ever meet and I'm not trying to say that each and every one of them could be said to be different, or generalized into one group. I'm simply trying to say that when you initially come to the forum and start reading this vast array of material you immediately start to generalize women into one mold of emotion and personality and that simply isn't true. If you look hard enough and invest the time into one girl who has earned it there is a good chance that you will find they are not the same and there is truly a reward to be gained from investing in one quality girl vs. four or five ONS'S.
I'm not talking about the sex aspect, I'm talking about a truly intellectual connection. Other members of the board will argue that if you have other aspects of your life in order then you won't need an intellectual connection with women, however I disagree. If you can find a women that can meet you or exceed you on a mental level then there is nothing more mentally stimulating.

To the rest of you I am way to tired/drunk to respond to you, you guys have fun finding out the meaning of life while I am having fun in my every day life. Yes, at their core it comes down to women make decisions based on emotions rather than logic however, I would rather not have to fake who I am simply to get into a women's pants. With the average girl that simply comes down to simply kino and eye contact these days. But when you find the occasional girl that the 'trips and tricks' don't work on you will find yourself asking the board for what to do next while I am sitting there through trial and error finding out what works.

Sosuave was great for me, however I gained much more knowledge from the old posters than anything that has been posted in the past five years. Since joining sosuave my bench press has gone up 45 lbs, I have gone 31 days without 'beating my meat', my one mile PR has gone down to 5:09. and I am the happiest I have ever been. But you guys that are the "Pros" have fun telling all these virgins the keys to life. While yall are at it, I'll be enjoying life. I'm out.

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DJ Bax said:
Hey tits, you have been on this site for what 13 years now? Glad that you are a man among boys, I hope I can be like you one day mate. :cheer:
You'll have your work cut out for you, but we'll sort ya out little buddy. Stay the course. 11 years, not 13.


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If you have discovered the answer to the game and know everything then what are you doing sticking around here and trashing guys 18 years you're minor like me?
Think of it as a public service, or giving back to the community. If I've made one tard who's still on a contact high from seeing his first snatch which wasn't his mothers to re-think his next "Theyre all unique snowflakes, do YOU love women enough to agree? Derrrrp" then I've just saved how many poor bastards who have been with more than 5 chicks from pulling their hair out? Who knows? Now I'm not saying I'm a great saviour or anything, that's up to our readership to decide. But let me just say I am growing my hair out at present, plus I'm sporting a beard. That's all I'll say on that.
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You sound like you have been screwed over by a couple of girls who you truly felt feelings for and are now extremely bitter, I hope you can one day get over that man.
Meh, as long as you got nothing and your not continuing with this snowflake bullsh!t I guess that's a start . :up:
 

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Hey Jitterbug where did I ever claim to know "everything"? However if you do and are willing to criticize me, what the f*uck? are you doing on this site? I would think that someone who knows everything would know something better to do than to flame me on this site at 3:30 am?
Time zones, kid.

Glad I can teach you that much. It's a good start.
 

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Wolfgang D, I have no idea how old you are. But I'm not referring to the modern day party girl who goes out and parties the majority of the week during summer vacation. At my current age group the majority of girls are not where you are currently at.
Yes, so like I said, maybe it's different when you are a teenager. The women I am with are in their twenties or early thirties. I am in my early thirties, by the way.

The women I am with, who I said I usually sleep with on the first or second date, are not generally modern-day party girls "who go out and party the majority of the week". You make the assumption that is the only kind of woman who would sleep with a man early, because sleeping with someone early is a terrible thing, but you are wrong. These are generally intelligent, educated gals.

there is truly a reward to be gained from investing in one quality girl vs. four or five ONS'S.

I'm not talking about the sex aspect, I'm talking about a truly intellectual connection.
There you go making generalizations again. Your OP is against generalizations, but your reasoning is also based on inaccurate generalizations. You assume that women who sleep with a guy without waiting many dates is a slvtty party girl. And you assume that a guy who has slept with several women is not looking for a quality girlfriend. That a guy who picks up different women is not looking for an intellectual girl.

You assume wrong. Why shouldn't a guy be able to have good sex with girls who are mature and intelligent beings who know exactly what they are doing and are fine with that - and at the same time look for a high-quality girlfriend among them? Isn't it the same process? It is. You can only find that girlfriend by dating.

Should I say, "Oops, I can't have you as my girlfriend. Then we can't go on any more dates or sleep together. Sex is bad if it doesn't aim for marriage."? No.

I think this all comes from you being a devout Christian, as you say. It makes you see sex as something generally bad, which the three monotheistic religions all do. So that, even if you desire it, you have that nagging voice in your head telling you it's wrong. And that a girl who sleeps with a guy on the first or second date cannot be a high-quality girl (i.e. she is a slvt). That last sentence is the core of your argument, but it is wrong.

You will see, I think. Also, switch to Asatru. It isn't any more right than Xtianity, but it has much cooler stories, and no Puritan view of sex.

Sosuave was great for me, however I gained much more knowledge from the old posters than anything that has been posted in the past five years. Since joining sosuave my bench press has gone up 45 lbs, I have gone 31 days without 'beating my meat', my one mile PR has gone down to 5:09. and I am the happiest I have ever been. But you guys that are the "Pros" have fun telling all these virgins the keys to life. While yall are at it, I'll be enjoying life. I'm out.
Glad to hear that you got knowledge out of SoSuave, and I agree, all the wisest advice has already been given and is to find in the archives. And yes, there are a lot of keyboard jockeys who only talk the talk, don't walk the walk.

Not sure why not masturbating for a month would help, but if it gives you more determination, then glad to hear it. And lifting weight is the way to go, I wish everyone at SS would do it.
 
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