News article on how people are noticing that looks don't mean sh*t to women.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

You can bet your soul on this.

Agreed.

 

[edger]

Str8up-

I can understand a woman wanting a man who will contribute and bring something to the table if she wants kids, but her want for him to bring something to the table has nothing to do with her biology being cut out to find a man who will be a provider..it has to do with her being smart about a situation and doing a rational thing.

 

[edger]

I'm not brainwashed about anything. This is science.

There are core behaviors that women have that have been around ever since the existence of man. Just because life has gotten "cushier" over the last couple of hundred years doesn't mean that our monkey brains are going to keep in step.

Str8up, your claim has NEVER been proven. So how can you say it's "science"??? Like I said, I would love to see an experiment conducted on it, like the one I mentioned in this thread. That would be the ultimate test to whether or not women are "biologically" programmed to seek out men who are "providers". Until then, you and anyone else who may agree with you, have absolutely ZERO, ZILCH evidence to make your claim that it is a "biological" motive.

 

[edger]

Value has nothing to do with looks, and EVERYTHING to do with what kind of man you are. Once you meet a woman's minimum physical criteria you will be judged on a myriad of other things such as social standing, confidence and several other, most of which are indicators of a man's NON physical suitability as a mate. In other words, she is looking for CUES to a man's ability to bring something to the table OTHER than just looks.

Str8up, you got it all wrong if you think a man's ability to provide for a woman has anything to do with what kind of a man he is. So, according to you, if a man can't "provide", he must be a "such and such" kind of person?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Str8up, you got it all wrong if you think a man's ability to provide for a woman has anything to do with what kind of a man he is...

Depends on what he is able to provide. Remember when I earlier asked for guys to post what they could offer women for the long term?

 

[mrRuckus]

BTW, notice that after that little episode, their marriage became quite strong - even a First Lady (and perhaps future POTUS herself) gets right when a little competition is in the mix!

Has it? Or is it faked because presidents CAN'T (de facto) be single? (or non-christian)

How would Hillary ever be president if she got a divorce or if they fought all the time in public for the tabloids?

 

[mrRuckus]

If indeed it is the case that wealthy men(both celebrity and non-celebrity)actually WANT to pay for sex, then that is just strange in my opinion. If I had to pay for sex, I'd personally feel humiliated. I'd feel like a loser who can't get chix(not that guys who pay are losers). I'd feel incompetant, that I can't get women the natural way by merits of good game.

Then you have been properly schooled by the feministic world.

Prostitution has been about for a long long time and only recently has it been really this frowned upon. Remember that "Rome" miniseries? Prostitutes were everywhere! Even the one mother sent her son to one to "make him a man." I remember thinking how awesome that was. Go in, do whatever I want with a hot woman, and have to do ZERO work for it or even care much about her pleasure. (sure that's fine sometimes and can be enjoyable but not all the time). Prostitution is only bad for uglier women because they no longer have a rare commodity to tout around in order to trap men in relationships. Its only to their advantage to keep it illegal, dangerous, and shame men away from it.

Why should I have to go out and perform a little dance and peacock around and convince a woman to fvck me? Sh1t, half the time I turn my fvck buddies down because they want to stay over and i don't want to deal with them all night or "go get breakfast" in the morning... and I start getting requests like "i'm sick; can you bring me ice cream?" Why the hell would i do that? You're my fvck buddy!! Then they get mad and then tell their friends and their retarded friends get mad EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT EVEN A BOYFRIEND!

If you put your dishes in the dishwasher do you feel like a loser who "can't wash dishes" because you took the easier route? Or did you just not want to deal with your hands getting all wrinkly and having to scrub some fvcking dishes? And why are you definining whether you feel like a loser or not depending on how women perceive you? The definition of men is decided by MEN and yourself.. not some female who defines man by how good he is at serving women.

 

[frivolousz21]

Value has nothing to do with looks, and EVERYTHING to do with what kind of man you are. Once you meet a woman's minimum physical criteria you will be judged on a myriad of other things such as social standing, confidence and several other, most of which are indicators of a man's NON physical suitability as a mate. In other words, she is looking for CUES to a man's ability to bring something to the table OTHER than just looks.

this is dead on....

 

[ketostix]

Why should I have to go out and perform a little dance and peacock around and convince a woman to fvck me? Sh1t, half the time I turn my fvck buddies down because they want to stay over and i don't want to deal with them all night or "go get breakfast" in the morning... and I start getting requests like "i'm sick; can you bring me ice cream?" Why the hell would i do that? You're my fvck buddy!! Then they get mad and then tell their friends and their retarded friends get mad EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT EVEN A BOYFRIEND!

If you put your dishes in the dishwasher do you feel like a loser who "can't wash dishes" because you took the easier route? Or did you just not want to deal with your hands getting all wrinkly and having to scrub some fvcking dishes? And why are you definining whether you feel like a loser or not depending on how women perceive you? The definition of men is decided by MEN and yourself.. not some female who defines man by how good he is at serving women.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Your charming personality and bullet proof PUA skills wont make you look any better with your shirt off.

 

[mrRuckus]

Your charming personality and bullet proof PUA skills wont make you look any better with your shirt off.

Are you quoting someone or yourself? I swear i've seen almost that exact sentence before.


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Do you guys even know how hot you are?

I really have no idea. I know i'm at the very least a bit above average but have no way of knowing for sure. Seems like the really hot guys know they're hot and the average and below guys know where they stand but i feel like i'm in some limbo where i'm just not sure because of conflicting reports. I personally don't see it but i have to deal with my dumb ass everyday, but then again i constantly get told how beautiful my eyes are everywhere i go (barber ladies, cashiers, waitresses, the blood donation nurse...) and they just look like big dumb blue balls sucked into my skull to me and no real different than anyone else's yet the womenfolk of all ages insist they're amazing. whatever.

But i see you guys posting stuff about "hot guys get to do this" and "average dudes have to do this instead" etc, but most of the sh1t isn't accurate for me either way. So fvck you guys for just making stuff up most of the time and confusing the hell out of my ability to judge myself. Just kidding i love you all and i send you hugs and feelings of creepiness.

 

[Interceptor]

I think every man on here needs to make sure they are the most rock steady, masculine guy they can possibly be...

Your Masculinity, and your raw emotional strength, and character are your most precious resources they want.

Your time, money, effort, love, affection, and peace of mind are your most personal resources.
Be careful on whom you spend them on.

Make sure you are keeping up your apperarance as much as possilbe. Don't slack off for no good reason.

 

[bigjohnson]

Do you guys even know how hot you are?

According to hot or not I am a 7.2-7.8 depending on the picture and whatever else influences such things. I think I'm in that "good enough looking" for almost any woman zone but not in the "I'm George Clooney and womens legs sometimes explode from opening too fast when they see me" zone.

Couple that with a decent personality and good career and it seems to work out OK.

 

[edger]

Men don't have babies. Babies make a person dependent upon fellow human beings to ensure a child's survival. A woman is generally weakened by pregnancy and child rearing. Thus, a woman who seeks to have a family (99% of them) will always, always, ALWAYS have the desire and the need for a partner who brings something to the table.

I never got the chance to throw this in the other day, but I wanna ask you this:

What about the woman who has absolutely no desire to have kids in life(as I see many women that don't)? Is there still a biological motive at work then for her to look for a man who will provide for her?

You can't say the woman who wants kids who is looking for a man to provide for her is doing so out of a biological motive. She is doing it out of common sense reasoning..she's doing the most rational thing(nobody wants to be with someone who can't provide for them when they're in a vulnerable state, especially the kids)..anyone would do what she would do.

 

[edger]

Do you guys even know how hot you are?

Yes I do...I know this from my own personal observation of myself, plus I've been told more than many times by women how hot I am. And don't take it as if I'm bragging, I'm not..besides, you asked. I even get told by guys(friends and strangers alike) how good looking I am.

But once again, like I've testified, the majority of the time my looks get me nowhere, it's only sometimes that my looks get me in the door. Most of the time I get zero looks from women in the clubs and bars, which once again proves that most women could care less about looks.

 

[joekerr31]

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But once again, like I've testified, the majority of the time my looks get me nowhere

having looks won't (always) get you laid.

but not having looks will make sure you DONT get laid.

big difference.

 

[Charm]

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Those guys did all that sh*t because they WANTED to. Not because they had no other options.

They like it, they do it. Sure, they could be doing other things. But, at the time, THAT's what they wanted to do. And they DID it.

Because those are the kinda guys who CAN do whatever they want. Strive for being that kinda guy.

And then, do what YOU want. (I'm not into chubby chicks - maybe Bill is.... to each his own.)

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As soon as I read aliasguy's post I need not read a further post in this thread. This is exactly the right attitude. The attitude of being able to do what YOU want with your life. Sure these guys may look like AFC's but they were actually doing what they wanted. They chose to act that way because they wanted to.

 

[bigjohnson]

What about the woman who has absolutely no desire to have kids in life....

Do guys who don't want kids still want sex? They're wired the way they're wired and there's little to nothing they can do about it.

 

[edger]

Do guys who don't want kids still want sex? They're wired the way they're wired and there's little to nothing they can do about it.

Keep believing what you believe, all the power to ya

 

[ketostix]

If you consider that the range of a woman's suitors is likely to be within a narrow socio/economic range then one man's wealth is no greater than another's. In such a case looks always matter more.

Brilliant! I was thinking the same thing the other day. I would also add in age range too. It takes a lot of wealth, not to mention a lot of personality or game for an older average looking guy to compete for the young hot chicks.