“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Jimmy333

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Hi, everyone. This is my first post and I'm a total novice at social skills etc. So any advice or help would be much appreciated.
There is a woman in work who joined us last December, well in June myself and her had to work together on our own. Well we started to get on really well, our interactions were playful and fun,and another colleague had noticed this as well. Anyway, a week or so later she asked if I wanted to go with her for a walk to some waterfall trail on the following weekend. On the walk,I was very much in my head and started to doubt why she had asked me along. This created a tension in Me,and I then started to take everything as a negative cue of her rejecting me. This just put me more up in my head. I put myself off trying to escalate the interaction between us,as I felt it was wrong time,but this just added to tension. In my mind I started thinking that she was not interested and that this was the reason nothing was happening. I couldn't see that it was probably my self doubt causing a lot. At about halfway through the trail, I was stressing over the lack of any positive signs,so I decided to gamble. I totally seemed to take her by suprise,as I turned to her and told her that there was something I'd wanted to do for a while,and that was to kiss her. Well,she didn't hear what I said at first,which I perceived as rejection,so I then repeated and went to kiss her. I was so in my head and concerned about the negative cues I had picked up on,that I ended up just kissing her cheek. I felt like a total dweeb. Although she wasn't offended,I think I really freaked her out. We never spoke about it on the rest of the walk.
We had also booked tickets to see a comedy show,however that wasn't for another couple of weeks. But after the waterfall experience,I didn't think she would want to come. I spoke to her the week before the show and asked if she still wanted to come and she said 'yes of course'. This really surprised me. However, a few days later the show got cancelled due to covid.
It's just been confusing the whole situation. She had to go back up to our main site the week after our walk. So we haven't had any of that close contact and it's like how we were previously has just disappeared. I have only spoken to her on phone in work. We always have good interactions,but I now still doubt everything. Last week,another colleague who didn't know anything about me and her, mentioned that he thought she had a soft spot for me. He said he had noticed how she responded or reacted when my name was mentioned or I appeared on screen or phone during meetings in work. I played it down. But it's just added to confusion. I'm trying to distance myself from thinking about it.
As of last week, I was back up the same site as her. Again we get on really well when interacting,but there are always other team members about and I feel she has to put her guard up. I just doubt why she asked me to go on walk with her,and agree to go to see show together. I also feel I've totally freaked her out with my attempt to kiss her. Im trying to keep my space as much as I can in work. But we still interact, and when I talk to her I still feel there maybe a connection. It's just that she then pulls back a little. Don't know whether that's because of it being work and her trying to be professional. When the show got cancelled and with the attempted kiss,I feel like there is nothing there now.
 

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1. Never date women at work. There are millions of women on the planet. Skip the ones you work with. It will only create issues for you. What if you date and have a bad breakup and then you have to see her every day? What if she gets upset with you and claims sexual harassment and you lose your job? The list goes on and on.
2. You are way too in your head about things. This whole post is a massive jumble of negative internal thinking, second-guessing, bewilderment, lack of confidence, and over-thinking. My best advice to you for this point is to read some books on positive/negative thinking and building confidence, and to stop wondering about women and instead make your move, make it quickly, and make it confidently. I don't know how you could be walking with her and her not hearing you when you said there was something you want to say, unless you said it in a whisper and mumbling which does not convey confidence. Women like confident, assertive men above nearly all else.
3. I wouldn't advise going from 0 to 60 in 1 second with a girl. You went from a platonic activity to diving in for a kiss with no escalation in between which is very uncalibrated. You should start with flirting, laughing, joking, some light touching on places like the small of her back or the back of her elbow or her forearm etc, and see how she takes all that. Assuming she is receptive, when you are both looking at eachother and smiling and holding eye contact silently for longer than normal, that's when you go in for the kiss. Not just walking down the path and grabbing her and kissing her.... that CAN work but it's best left to people who really know what they are doing and can read the situation better.
 

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Hi, everyone. This is my first post and I'm a total novice at social skills etc. So any advice or help would be much appreciated.
There is a woman in work who joined us last December, well in June myself and her had to work together on our own. Well we started to get on really well, our interactions were playful and fun,and another colleague had noticed this as well. Anyway, a week or so later she asked if I wanted to go with her for a walk to some waterfall trail on the following weekend. On the walk,I was very much in my head and started to doubt why she had asked me along. This created a tension in Me,and I then started to take everything as a negative cue of her rejecting me. This just put me more up in my head. I put myself off trying to escalate the interaction between us,as I felt it was wrong time,but this just added to tension. In my mind I started thinking that she was not interested and that this was the reason nothing was happening. I couldn't see that it was probably my self doubt causing a lot. At about halfway through the trail, I was stressing over the lack of any positive signs,so I decided to gamble. I totally seemed to take her by suprise,as I turned to her and told her that there was something I'd wanted to do for a while,and that was to kiss her. Well,she didn't hear what I said at first,which I perceived as rejection,so I then repeated and went to kiss her. I was so in my head and concerned about the negative cues I had picked up on,that I ended up just kissing her cheek. I felt like a total dweeb. Although she wasn't offended,I think I really freaked her out. We never spoke about it on the rest of the walk.
We had also booked tickets to see a comedy show,however that wasn't for another couple of weeks. But after the waterfall experience,I didn't think she would want to come. I spoke to her the week before the show and asked if she still wanted to come and she said 'yes of course'. This really surprised me. However, a few days later the show got cancelled due to covid.
It's just been confusing the whole situation. She had to go back up to our main site the week after our walk. So we haven't had any of that close contact and it's like how we were previously has just disappeared. I have only spoken to her on phone in work. We always have good interactions,but I now still doubt everything. Last week,another colleague who didn't know anything about me and her, mentioned that he thought she had a soft spot for me. He said he had noticed how she responded or reacted when my name was mentioned or I appeared on screen or phone during meetings in work. I played it down. But it's just added to confusion. I'm trying to distance myself from thinking about it.
As of last week, I was back up the same site as her. Again we get on really well when interacting,but there are always other team members about and I feel she has to put her guard up. I just doubt why she asked me to go on walk with her,and agree to go to see show together. I also feel I've totally freaked her out with my attempt to kiss her. Im trying to keep my space as much as I can in work. But we still interact, and when I talk to her I still feel there maybe a connection. It's just that she then pulls back a little. Don't know whether that's because of it being work and her trying to be professional. When the show got cancelled and with the attempted kiss,I feel like there is nothing there now.
My advice: Research this forum and the articles within it. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of previous posts and content about this.

Final note: Never date anyone at work.

Modern Man Advice
 

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TLDR.

Read Mystery Method. Rollo Tomassi. Book of Pook. Answer your own question.

Thank you for reaching out. It takes some guts. Get your frame together first.

Way too much attention on the woman and not on yourself.

Focus on self. Everything will fall together.

Good luck bud.
 
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