"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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So I hooked up with a girl I "met online". The first date went well, had a few drinks at her place then at a local pool hall. I kissed her goodnight (on the cheeks) and asked her to call me. She thanked me for the awesome night and said she wanted to see me again. She emailed me that night (half hour after I dropped her off). She asked me if I wanted to see her again (with ?!?!) That was two evenings ago.
I emailed her yesterday morning thanking her for the good time and confirmed I wanted to see her again.

I haven't heard back from her so should I call her or just wait for her to call back? I read somewhere I needed to wait three of four days.

BTW I did most of the work so far in terms of calling her and setting up the date.

Thanks for any help! :cool:
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

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Kisses on the cheek don't count, which is why she texted you right away asking if you wanted to see her again. She felt rejected by not getting a real kiss. Don't apologize - you're probably too nice already. Just kiss her for real when you see her next time. When a girl does AFC things, that is a good sign. You are making her wonder if you like her, and that is good, but if you don't at least make out next time you see her, then she will get bored very quickly.

Call her tomorrow or the next day and tell her when you want to go out and what you want to do. Make it fun, but fun for you. You plan to have a good time, and she can come along.
 

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arrgh, I saw the above message after I invited her over for supper.

I'm having a hard time "reading her"; she is stone cold!
Last night we keno'ed and got closer on the couch (touching) but she keeps a pillow between us and sits in a defensive way. We did a lot of flirting so hopefully I won't get "tagged as another friend"

I guess that if I get a next chance (which she indicated wanted to see me again) I will make a bolder move and see what happens.
 

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i get confused with the term hooked up. before i took it as french kissing, now i see it used for casually sex, and now its used here as a date? So you only kissed on the cheek right?

my steps are usually date wise

1.) get to know her
2.) steal a kiss on her cheek or leave for date 3
3.) cheek or first kiss
4.) lips

finding ways to increase IL while on every date is the hard part but maybe that's what your missing.
 

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oh well case closed. being nice sucks
Wow did I ever learn a lesson with this fish stick
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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