newbie help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cincere]

I think I posted this in the wrong spot the first time.

I'm new on here and I have a couple of questions? 1. what does afc stand for and all the other abrevations? 2. I have this friend that I'm stuck in the "friend zone" with. I have my own technique to get out of it. but I'm wondering what I should do but one thing is certain I'm tired of being the emotional door mat. I asked a couple of my peps my age for some advice but they all told me to do the same thing which is tell her. I don't think I should do that because females that I have met don't understand logic. she is no exception. so Im wondering what would some older cats that know more about the game would advise me to do. I've known her for 6 years and at first it was cool but I think I missed the opportunity to make a move. I think she views me as a brother instead of a man. It gets nerve wrecking because she sends mixed signals. she calls one time and we are talking about sexaul things. then she calls another time and the topic is about this guy she wants to talk to. so I kinda wondering where her head is because I don't talk about either of those subjects with my real sister. is she playing a game or what. I'm just about ready to just stop talking to her completely. but all the advise that is given will be greatly appreciated.
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[omega05]

use urbandictionary.com to decipher acronyms on here
and what is your technique to get out the friendzone?

 

[Cincere]

ok fvck my techniques I got a lot learn. the more I read the acronyms the more I realized I fit the category. so I have been going about sh!t the wrong way. it want take that much work for me to get out of that afc way of thinking but the fact still stands that I am one. so all help that is given well be appreciated

 

[BeautifulHawaii]

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=59150

There you go.

Also AFC stands for average frustrated chump.

IOI stands for indicator of interest.

Kino stands for touching a girl on any part of her body.

Symp stands for female sympathizer which is what posters like TheHumanist are for example.

Player is a guy thats good at mackin the b!tches and tellin em what they want to hear.

Anymore definitions I think you can get a big list for on a site known as MASF if you just look around a bit.

 

[BeautifulHawaii]

AFC stands for average frustrated chump.

The rest of the definitions can be found on a site I believe called MASF.

As for your woman troubles read the DJ Bible which everyone else does before becoming an active poster.

Specifically though what can help you with your problem immediately is a post by Pook titled the 15 lessons.

 

[Igetit!]

I'm new on here and I have a couple of questions? 1. what does afc stand for and all the other abrevations?

"AFC" stands for average frustrated chump.
"IOI" stands for indicator(s) of interest.
"IL" stands for interest level.
"AW" stands for attention WH0RE.
"FTC" stands for false time constrant

And on and on. There are too many for me to go through all of them.

2. I have this friend that I'm stuck in the "friend zone" with. I have my own technique to get out of it. but I'm wondering what I should do

Hate to give you the bad news man,but there's no way out of the friendzone.

You're stuck dude.



The friendzone is a one-way street to a dead end with no exits.



The problem is you've been around this girl for a looong period of time as she's gotten used to you the way you are,which is nonromantc/nonsexual.


Therefore,the emotions she has for you are nonromantic/nonsexual as well.



You're not going to just walk up to her,show her your romantic/sexual side,then all the feelings and emotions of friendship she's had for THE PAST 6 YEARS just change in an instant into sexual attraction.


Doesn't work that way.

It gets nerve wrecking because she sends mixed signals. she calls one time and we are talking about sexaul things. then she calls another time and the topic is about this guy she wants to talk to.

These aren't mixed signals You're just interpeting that way. Just because a girl talks about sex doesn't mean she wants to have sex with you.



I don't know why you'd be confused about this. Tell me:Would you like the next 6 years to be EXACLTY like the past 6 years you've known her?


Because she would.




She doesn't want anything to change. The way things are now,she goes out and sleeps with other guys,then she has someone (you) to come back to and talk about all the emotional issues she has with those guys.



So she can have her cake and eat it too. Her needs are met and she's satisfied.



Now that that's settled,what about YOU? What about the things you want concerning dating and relationships?



Are your needs being met...by her?



Are you satisfied? If not,that's YOUR FAULT.



This girl is doing what she needs to do to get she needs met. She's taking responsibility for her own wants.



So why don't you?




If you're not getting what you want with this girl,then why do you continue to waste your time?



It's been 6 YEARS. How much longer do you plan on doing this?

 

[Cincere]

"AFC" stands for average frustrated chump.
"IOI" stands for indicator(s) of interest.
"IL" stands for interest level.
"AW" stands for attention WH0RE.
"FTC" stands for false time constrant

And on and on. There are too many for me to go through all of them.



Hate to give you the bad news man,but there's no way out of the friendzone.

You're stuck dude.



The friendzone is a one-way street to a dead end with no exits.



The problem is you've been around this girl for a looong period of time as she's gotten used to you the way you are,which is nonromantc/nonsexual.


Therefore,the emotions she has for you are nonromantic/nonsexual as well.



You're not going to just walk up to her,show her your romantic/sexual side,then all the feelings and emotions of friendship she's had for THE PAST 6 YEARS just change in an instant into sexual attraction.


Doesn't work that way.






These aren't mixed signals You're just interpeting that way. Just because a girl talks about sex doesn't mean she wants to have sex with you.



I don't know why you'd be confused about this. Tell me:Would you like the next 6 years to be EXACLTY like the past 6 years you've known her?


Because she would.




She doesn't want anything to change. The way things are now,she goes out and sleeps with other guys,then she has someone (you) to come back to and talk about all the emotional issues she has with those guys.



So she can have her cake and eat it too. Her needs are met and she's satisfied.



Now that that's settled,what about YOU? What about the things you want concerning dating and relationships?



Are your needs being met...by her?



Are you satisfied? If not,that's YOUR FAULT.



This girl is doing what she needs to do to get she needs met. She's taking responsibility for her own wants.



So why don't you?




If you're not getting what you want with this girl,then why do you continue to waste your time?



It's been 6 YEARS. How much longer do you plan on doing this?

so basically I'm "assed out" on this situation. I should just slowly but surely stop talking to her or wat. yes yes yes I'm a afc I know but I'm trying to get that b!tch(afc) out my system. it sucks but lesson well learned. want be back in this situation. I think I need to read the dj bible. I remember seeing it but don't remember how to get to it. so there is no way of getting out of the situation and the best thing to do is to leave her alone?

 

[Igetit!]

so basically I'm "assed out" on this situation.

Basically,yeah. Now here's the crazy part...

You're chances with her were over like 5 1/2 YEARS AGO,and you're just now realizing it.

I should just slowly but surely stop talking to her or wat.

No,you don't have to stop talking to her. You can continue if you wish. Just understand that as far as dating goes,it's over with.

You can keep talking with her about other guys if you want to.

yes yes yes I'm a afc I know but I'm trying to get that b!tch(afc) out my system.

Don't feel bad about being AFC man. The forum is full of AFCs like a doctor's office is full of sick people.

That's how it's supposed to be.


The sick go to the doctor to get well,and AFCs come here to get rid of their AFCness and become better men.

Oh yeah,you said that you're trying to "get that b!tch out of your system". Well if she's a "b!tch",then why are you trying to date her? Why have you been hung up on ths "b!tch" for the past 6 years?

I think I need to read the dj bible. I remember seeing it but don't remember how to get to it.

Easy man. Go straight to the bottom of this page. You'll see a link there.

so there is no way of getting out of the situation

No. Unless you want to go 10 years of not contacting her,then come back at her as a different person. That'd be your best shot,and I'M NOT KIDDING ABOUT THAT.

and the best thing to do is to leave her alone?

Again,you DON'T HAVE to leave her alone. You can continue talking to her if you want,but the chances of you dating her is zero.

 

[Cincere]

I wasn't calling her a ***** she is cool, I was calling the afcness a *****. but I think the best thing to do is to cut out. as I say again I not that guy I used to be. fvck that. being the nice guy got me here. so why would I put myself threw that for another 6 years. I figure if its meant to be then she will see what's up and say something. but if not then let the hoing games begin!!!!!

 

[Igetit!]

I wasn't calling her a ***** she is cool, I was calling the afcness a *****.

Oh. Ok,I see.

being the nice guy got me here. so why would I put myself threw that for another 6 years.

True,that's exactly what I was thinking.

I figure if its meant to be then she will see what's up and say something. but if not then let the hoing games begin!!!!!

Well,if you do decide to cut contact,she will say something.

She'll start contacting you more often....BUT...don't fool yourself.



The reason she'll start calling or texting you more isn't because she likes you or wants to date you. It'll be because she misses you.


If you two have been friends for the past 6 years,and have been around each other and talked to each other all that time,and then suddenly out of the blue,you just up and stop talking to her,she's going to wonder why.



She'll wonder why,if you're ok,etc. Plus,she'll miss having someone to tell all her guy problems to.



I mean if you were friends with someone for 6 years and talked to them on a regular basis,then suddenly they just stopped talking to you,wouldn't you wonder why as well?


Wouldn't you try to contact them to see what up?



And you'd do this because you miss them and want to know what the deal is,NOT BECAUSE you suddenly (after 6 years) want to date them.



So yeah,if you decide not to talk to her again,be prepared.


She WILL call you and want to know what's up.


Ha,ha...this is funny. I wonder what you have planned to say to her when she asks you why you've stopped talking to her.

 

[Cincere]

well it could only be one thing. since i've learned so much from this site. and what I have learned is to show feelings not tell her how you feel. I could really only say one thing and that's pull the busy card. and remind her that I'm not her only friend. make small talk about nothing and hung up after a 15 min. convo. I kind of figured that if she started calling more then it because she is missing her emotional door mate. what I meant is her confessing feeling of different sort then what she already has. she called early and I just looked at my cell phone while it rung and laughed a lil. I think I talk to her her on sunday at some point doing that day. and make short and simple. then wait another couple days and talk to her again. but every time that she brings up another guy or her sex talk then its time for me to exit stage left. I feel kinda stupid for investing so much time into this sh!t for nothing at all. not even a warm hand shake. but I have seen the error in ways and I can its time to flip sh!t to a new page.