Newb story: Calling girls out on "ghosting" feels liberating

[Trump]

Me: "Hey, you had a great time with me, right? I suppose you've been very busy because you didn't ever get back to me. That's a shame, best of luck finding your dream dude in future X"

Girl: "I'm really so sorry, it was so rude of me not to reply. I really liked our time together but I wasn't sure we had chemistry. We could do something again? This weekend?"

Me: "Well, thanks for being honest. It's far better to have a straight rejection, lots of girls just drop a guy these days. Good luck with your next one."

What? She tells you she is available to have sex and you say "I don't FEEL you love me enough, good luck with the 6'1 basketball player?"

Me: "Saturday 3 pm my place?"

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

Going to warn you lads that this will be a whinepost, lol ;P

I hate it when I get cynical about dating, but it's definitely happening at the moment. Wondering if I should take a break, do you guys normally have a few weeks out from dating when it starts feeling tedious?

Third chick in a row from an online site to ghost on me this past date, which is a pretty terrible record. It's weirding me out now because it's just totally conflicting behaviour from what I'm observing on the actual night.

A whole date of eye contact, laughing, even hand holding. Loads of stuff in common, lots of chemistry. This last chick kept suggesting second dates, gave me a cheek kiss at the end and told me she can't wait to see me again.

Did I ever get a text back? Hell no. I'm probably not playing the game correctly or something but this bulls***ing on dates has got me to the point I'm starting to distrust almost every signal I get from women. I don't trust my intuition anymore at all, which obviously isn't good for my development.

My pics online are very accurate to what I actually look like, I look good and smell good and apparently the conversation and light kino on the first dates themselves seem to be going well. But they can't be when this keeps happening. If I told a girl she was awesome, kissed her and told her I want a second date, I'd expect her to think I was insane if I just ghosted her completely the next day onwards. Reverse roles and it's standard behaviour!

EDIT - Derby, just read your post again. I guess the cheek kiss really is the Kiss of Death, lol

 

[derby1]

EDIT - Derby, just read your post again. I guess the cheek kiss really is the Kiss of Death, lol

I know what im talking about mate, you kiss her on the lips and you dont ask you LEAD, you should not be holding these womens hands, they can put the arm through your folded arm

Its very downhearting i know all the time youve wasted to be ghosted....

we have 2 problems here

1.you are not setting yourself out apart to the other 500 men she has blowing up her inbox, theyll kiss her on the cheek and fix her car be here therapist etc

2.My Personnal belief is most women under 35 these days have serious mental issues they are neurotic attention *****s,
So Neurotic that if you dont text them bk in 5 minutes flat, it wont make them want you more theyll just presume your having an affair

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

2.My Personnal belief is most women under 35 these days have serious mental issues they are neurotic attention *****s,
So Neurotic that if you dont text them bk in 5 minutes flat, it wont make them want you more theyll just presume your having an affair

An interesting point. I must admit that almost every woman I've been on dates with in the last year or so seems to have big problems behind the scenes, finding someone "normal" seems extremely difficult.

First there's the problem of narcissism. Everyone seems selfie obsessed and most girls I talk to seem to think anything below a 6'10 ripped slab of muscle is below them. I've heard girls saying that the "normal" BF physique should be 300 lbs+ of sheer muscle, and they say men have unrealistic expectations! I'm 6' and about 220 lbs and these girls still consider that "Meh".

I'm in a very liberal town atm, pretty much every girl is bi/bicurious/polyamorous/heteroflexible (I had to Google the last one!) or in an "open relationship" so they all seem to have done some very crazy sexual experimentation that rather than empowering them has lead to them being psychologically f*cked up or abused in some way.

I remember I once talked to this girl who thought it was "normal" that her ex would never wear condoms and would literally scream at her until she cried if she wasn't on the pill. Another friend-girl of mine once told me her BF would just do outrageous stuff in bed she didn't even consent to (i.e. basically sexual assault) on a regular basis and she considered that normal behaviour too.

Sooooo messed up. And so I guess when you date girls you have no idea if they've been subject to that BS. It would certainly explain a lot of the schizophrenic behaviour I get on dates, a lot of girls can't seem to handle the fact I'm not an abusive d*ckhead.

 

[derby1]

you should not be listening to these stories you should be changing the subject politely and quicktime

Also NOTICE how its always the males fault...............these women are professional victims

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

you should not be listening to these stories you should be changing the subject politely and quicktime

Also NOTICE how its always the males fault...............these women are professional victims

Oh yeah totally. I mean the guys in this case were undeniably behaving like arseholes, but the girls not only stayed with them but would literally defend their behaviour angrily when I questioned it. It's practically equal blame.

The girls in question weren't of interest to me romantically anyway so that's why I bothered to listen to it all. Anyway I'm on a tangent I think I might take a few weeks off dating and focus on the gym and work for my own sanity.

 

[derby1]

I think I might take a few weeks off dating and focus on the gym and work for my own sanity.

Yes work out, concentrate on your own mind body and soul...... and not figuring out others

id personally get in the mindset of "im gonna have a good night with this woman tonight then im never gonna see her again"

also keep text sessions to 5 texts max, and never text after the first date, tell her to let you know when shes home safe....

then when she says shes home you reply "thats great...Keep in touch ", then dont initiate

 

[marmel75]

What? She tells you she is available to have sex and you say "I don't FEEL you love me enough, good luck with the 6'1 basketball player?"

Me: "Saturday 3 pm my place?"

SMFH...a guy that needs all the live practice he can get with women turns it down to protect his ego...then wonders why he keeps failing...

Practice makes perfect...but you turn down practice and expect to get somewhere...unbelievable.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

SMFH...a guy that needs all the live practice he can get with women turns it down to protect his ego...then wonders why he keeps failing...

Practice makes perfect...but you turn down practice and expect to get somewhere...unbelievable.

Not really, I don't think she had any intention of seeing me again anyway. This girl was going silent for weeks at a time, I don't want to be dealing with that BS for another 1-2 weeks just to arrange a date that never happens.

If she wasn't so flakey, yes I would have given her that chance. But I'd been d*cked about enough already.

 

[sosousage]

When I get ghosted I either send nothing to them and remove/block them as soon as I realise or If I like them I ask why they ignore me recently. Then if no rational answer then I block


to be honest you dont need to send second message if your last one received no reply .Its obvious ghosting

The less you care for them the better for you and they dont get that false entitlement sense (at least not more of it).


women are hypergamous so they always stick to the best SINGLE choice at the current moment. so you are the best one and you text/date but in two weeks she meets better guy.

Most women will prefer being with one guy than with 5 male plates

 

[Mazer]

Going to warn you lads that this will be a whinepost, lol ;P

I hate it when I get cynical about dating, but it's definitely happening at the moment. Wondering if I should take a break, do you guys normally have a few weeks out from dating when it starts feeling tedious?

Third chick in a row from an online site to ghost on me this past date, which is a pretty terrible record. It's weirding me out now because it's just totally conflicting behaviour from what I'm observing on the actual night.

A whole date of eye contact, laughing, even hand holding. Loads of stuff in common, lots of chemistry. This last chick kept suggesting second dates, gave me a cheek kiss at the end and told me she can't wait to see me again.

Did I ever get a text back? Hell no. I'm probably not playing the game correctly or something but this bulls***ing on dates has got me to the point I'm starting to distrust almost every signal I get from women. I don't trust my intuition anymore at all, which obviously isn't good for my development.

My pics online are very accurate to what I actually look like, I look good and smell good and apparently the conversation and light kino on the first dates themselves seem to be going well. But they can't be when this keeps happening. If I told a girl she was awesome, kissed her and told her I want a second date, I'd expect her to think I was insane if I just ghosted her completely the next day onwards. Reverse roles and it's standard behaviour!

EDIT - Derby, just read your post again. I guess the cheek kiss really is the Kiss of Death, lol [/QUO

Very common with online dating. I have learned to try and bed them on the first date because there is a high probability you wont be seeing these chicks again. Don't respect any of these sloots, play them all. I am seeing this chick right now, didnt let me kiss close on the first date but has high interest, always responds to my text messages immediately, and accepts my dates. The old me would think, oh perfect, she might be LTR material, not anymore, to me she is a sloot who is probably looking for a free lunch. Expect nothing from women and you will never lose and yes, its a sad state of affairs

 

[Visionist]

There are no second dates. There are first dates which lead straight to sex, and subsequent booty calls, or first & last dates, which lead to me blocking their number.

 

[marmel75]

Once you get to a certain point you dont even have time to worry about these things because you already have multiple other dates set up.