Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Hey guys. I just stumbled across this forum and have been reading all evening, I find it very informative.

I usually do ok with girls, but would like maximize my potential so to speak. I'm 22 but when I was younger I used be what I've seen described here as the "beta" type of guy. Being overly polite, putting girls on a pedestal, etc. That usually meant I didn't do very well and was just considered a "nice guy"

It's only in the last year or so I've got fed up with that **** and started to act the complete opposite. Usually taking the piss out of girls, borderline insulting them them , being a kind of **** towards them and taking no **** off them. What has shocked me is this actually works, I'm actually doing so much better now.

But I feel I have a lot to learn. I wondered if any of you have any advice in general as to how to avoid being the beta type of male? Could anyone post some links to some helpful material that may benefit me?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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****ing a lot of chicks and being good with women will not cause you to be happy. Being happy and maintaining self-worth will cause you to be happy while ****ing a lot of chicks and being good with women.

Basically, read this thread http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=194844

Roissy, Rollo, ect. are GREAT resources, but avoid the trap that you need to be perfect. Terms like alpha and beta are taken far too literal in my opinion. This information is read by tons of guys everywhere who fail to actually internalize it and put it into good use. Basically, having knowledge of game doesn't make you any more alpha, but it makes you less beta. Also, natural game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learned game.

I'd also like to throw this gem out there courtesy of zekko,

There's an undercurrent here and in the pickup community that to get a woman, you have to be practically the perfect man (a top ten percenter), have super tight game, and that any little mistake can get you rejected. If that's not putting women on a pedestal, I don't know what is.

Meanwhile, out in the real world, supposed AFCs get women all the time. Maybe they're not banging three different girls a week, but they're happy (many of them, anyway). Until they lose their girl, then wash, rinse, repeat.
 
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