"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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New to me and unsure.

zerocelcius

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Usually I never pursued a woman if she had a child. Mostly because she has to spend so much time with the child and the commitment factor. Recently I met a 9 with a great personality and extremely funny. This makes her a 9.5 to me and an easy 10 if she was taller. Anyway I would actually like to hang out with this girl and get to know her better. I have never dealt with a woman with a child. I know the first few dates should be only her and you, but she has to bring her child sometimes. If anybody has any experience or advice on this topic please help me out.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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HollowHorizon

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Relax

Why, dont you suggest taking her (and her kid) To somplace just to have a good time.

2 Spend more time paying attention to her kid, Show her how good you are with kids

We all know that is a package deal just remember that...

After a lil while take her n her kid to get ice cream........

3 Most important as you get close to her get close to her child
 

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hollowhorizon sounds like some child molestor, yikes.

anyways, it should only be you and her. if she trusts you and if she's normal (if she introduces you to the kid right away , red flag) then yeah take her/kid along to amusement park, zoo..family fun but only after a couple months.
 

zerocelcius

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thanks

Thanks. I may see her again, but I will appreciate the short experience but won't pursue her. It did make me curious because it caught me off guard. I still would like to hear some advice on this subject. I have talked to some girl friends that have children, and got some of their views. Mostly what I got was don't change at all, and in addition to the child be friendly like "hi..peeka boo..."
 
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