"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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New Relationship. Constantaly Fighting. Am i wasting my time?

Telfon

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Im up late typing this minutes after another daily fight while its still fresh. I need to know if im being Beta/too sensitive or is this girl doomed me too a blackhole of fighting

First of all, i wanna thank this forum, im 22 and i was single for the first time since Highschool basically this past January up until about a week ago. So for about 7 months, i was playing the field like you guys had taught me too. I had hooked up with about 12 girls from bars and parties, and ****ed 3 in that time, 2 of which were around for months, one of those girls is now my girlfriend.

Now weve been seeing eachother since May of this year. 5 Months. I took her to see 21 Jump Street "casually" and it sparked from there. Thru the summer we were hooking up, then having sex, and then taking walks on the beach, and then having sex on the beach, all before we were together. shes 20, im 22 so theres a slight gap in maturity. I found out that she had a "wild" phase when she went away to school for a year, at first i didnt believe it, but i found out her body count is 15+ and most of that was up at school. For a 20 year old i dont know if thats considered high really but i accepted it for what it is. It does still bother me though. she said she wanted commitment and i know she wont cheat cause shes strongly against it (parent thing).

I asked her and we started officially dating, not "facebook official" because we work together and we keep our business our business.

Ive been in relationships before (2 year, 1 year - 4 months) so i know what it was supposed to be like. We havent said i love you to eachother even though we have been dating since may and offically are commited. I think thats a good thing and dont have an issue with that cause love isnt a word you just throw around if you dont mean it. Our text conversations are painfully dull and lack substance alot of the time. And it pisses me off because we dont see eachother as much so its how we communicate, and its like pulling teeth when im trying to talk to her. I get the, "haha" or ":)" responses when i know shes not busy and i know shes being lazy. Ive called her out on it and shes admitted to being a bad texter, but doesnt make any progress toward fixing it. She has no problem telling me she wants sex, or touching my **** whenever she can, but getting her to have a conversation about her emotions is impossible. Shes so ****ing stubborn she wont say sorry in a fight and she wont admit she was wrong until way after the fight is over and im beyong pissed off and or going to bed. Ill get the "Im sorry" text at 3am cause she realized she was wrong. She says shes about "actions" and not about "talk" but she only really has let me know when shes horny. dont get me wrong so suave, that part about her is awesome, cause i can pat her kitty down for 5 minutes whenever i want and she wants it more then i do when im done. The Issue also lies with her sex ettiquette when we get to the boning. its like that of a dude in a frat. She cums and she wants to stop. Ive already told her to cut that **** out.

She doesnt put any effort into any conversation we had, i call her beautiful, she ignores my text and changes the subject. Tonight i asked just for a picture, ignored my text and continued the convo. thats whatever, probably wasnt in the mood. She then tells me shes going to pay for a massage. Im thinking "WTF ARE YOU PAYING FOR THAT FOR? I HAVE HANDS!" and i call her out. she says.
"Ooooh you will do it?" -her
"Yeah if you send me a picture" -me
"Hmm, Looks like im scheduling one"-her
"The fact that you would get a massage from someone else perplexes me" -me
"I want a good one that lasts long!" -her
"So you ask..." -me
"Yeah and you want a picture -- So im going to schedule one, Im Passing out -- Sweet Dreams" - 4 texts rapid fire from her

^ This pissed me off for two reasons,
1. All i want to do is establish a fun relationship where i can get/give a massage. cause we all know where those lead to. Weve only been dating for a week and 3 days, but seeing eachother since May/June.
2. Im trying to get her to be fun and send me a picture, didnt say nude picture, didnt say sexy, just said a picture. and That task seems to be something simple, but she cant complete it and be fun. I send her stuff all the time to try to jump start that side of our relationship, usually of myself. But she sends nothing in return. Our relationship is so ****ing dull so i try and make it fun by giving her an open ended request, and she shuts it down.

I went off on her about that and explained why just like i did to you guys. My question is, after all this being said. Is this a dead end? am i being beta or am i thinking logically thinking that i might have a problem. and how do i fix it.

Sparknotes for the lazy ones

-Girlfriend sucks at texting
-Super Stubborn
-Less then perfect past
-Seeing her Since May
-Poor Sex Etiquette (already discussed)
-Wont comply with simple requests.
-Girlfriend has bad time articulating emotions
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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DonJuanabe

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Girlfriend sucks at texting -- So? If she doesn't care for texting let it be.
-Super Stubborn -- Most women are, especially young ones.
-Less then perfect past -- Few women have perfect pasts.
-Seeing her Since May -- Okay.
-Poor Sex Etiquette (already discussed) -- Okay.
-Wont comply with simple requests -- You're being sh*t-tested and you keep failing.
-Girlfriend has bad time articulating emotions -- You should not be incessant about wanting her to express her emotions to you. Let her do it on her own, her way, if she chooses to do so.

She runs the show. It's obvious. You're needy over little things and she is in charge. You seem to be nagging her -- it's a woman's job to nag, not a man's. Her respect for you is not where it needs to be. Go NC and see what happens.
 

Greasy Pig

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You've invested too much of yourself in this relationship and the fact you continue to entertain her when she behaves badly is just giving her a free pass to be a cvnt because she knows you won't DO anything about it.
Sure, you say that you're p1ssed off but instead of acting and freezing her out, you accept her half-arsed apologies and keep giving her attention.

You are acting like the woman in this scenario. You want to discuss feelings, you seek validation from her and you need reassurance that she still likes you.
Fvck that!!!

If you don't act immediately to correct her bad behaviour (note: ACT), you don't ram home the message that you won't put up with this bvllsht.
At the moment, she's in full control because she knows there are no repercussions for her bad behaviour.

As Donjuanabe said, pull back, don't be so available and don't be so quick to forgive her indiscretions.
 

Telfon

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Okay, im going to text alot less. basically just ease off. I can see how feminine i was being. Any tips on how to really put my foot down without coming across as needy as i was before
 

JohnChops

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ugh feelings I remember those stupid useless things. Yeah your acting like the girl in this situation, lol you care that she is going to get a massage... you realize that 100s of people get massages by a professional. Fvck the massage, just bang her damn it! Massage her pvssy and show her whos a professional.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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GoodButNotGreat

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Just being honest..from what I've read that doesn't sound like a real "relationship" at all. Seems like she's the man who focuses on sex and doesn't put much effort into anything else.
 

Telfon

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I mean, i dont know too many girls in relationships that suck at texting like she does. And i cant help from comparing her to my past relationships, where the girls acted like girls in person, and in text.

Today i havent texted with as much detail or as frequently, but its still the same ****.
And yeah, i feel what you are saying GoodButNotGreat. She acts like its just about the sex. Her Sex Ettiquette is terrible. Its strange. but the relationship is so young i cant help but wait to see how things play out. im just trying to make sure they playout the right way.
 

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Giving a woman attention when she is pissed is like rewarding a dog for ****ting on the carpet.

She is obviously showing signs of bad behavior, yet you are not "punishing" her for them. Instead you are seeking more validation and attention from her. This causes her to lose respect for you. She needs to have respect for you if there is to be a future for your relationship.

My experience in LTR's are that if you fight a lot in the beginning, it will be difficult in the long term. This should be the "happy phase". After a while even more small stuff will annoy you, and her, and the fighting will increase.

But basically you need to free yourself from the need of her constant attention. Who cares if she doesn't like texting? Texting are for girls anyways.

It seems to me that she actually lacks some of the qualities that YOU are looking for in a girl (caring, attentive, communicative).
 

floydb25

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GoodButNotGreat said:
Just being honest..from what I've read that doesn't sound like a real "relationship" at all. Seems like she's the man who focuses on sex and doesn't put much effort into anything else.
Indeed. Reminds me of the bar and party days. This is what a relationship IS with these worthless sacks of space. She sounds like a stubborn *****, as expected. Good catch. :down:
 

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No girl sucks at texting.

Though some men suck at attracting.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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