New Movie Just Out: Escape From LJBF Land

[tigerstyle]

There was a post recently about befriending women, and what the benefits of doing so might be. My first reaction was to "defend" the fact that I have some women friends. However, some of the replies got me thinking -- and after doing that thinking for a while and truly breaking things down, I realized that a good 75% of my women "friends" are in fact AFC remnants of failed attempts or missed opportunities. Out of them all, I can think of two that I actually consider genuine friends, almost to that level of "family." The rest, on closer inspection, are merely women I am "friendly" with because that is what I settled for.

Now, I can tell you straight up, there are a couple of my women friends that I am not interested in actively pursuing, and they do offer some benefits (such as inviting me over for dinner from time to time, introducing me to other friends of theirs, etc.), so it behooves me to remain friends with them. Quite a few of the others, though, I've discovered deep down, that I'd still love to shag them, or if not that, I'd be fine without their friendship.

That brings me to the question...

Have any of you ever attempted Mission Impossible, by attempting the minefield out of LJBF land? Were you successful? If so, how? If not, why?

Now keep in mind I'm not talking some girl you just met the other day who might have just stamped you with a giant "LJBF," rather, I'm speaking of girls that you've known quite a long time that would consider it extremely odd that you had a sudden "change of attitude" towards them.

They say nothing is impossible, so I'm kind of interested to hear your stories, and I'm going to be doing a little experiment of my own by trying to escape from LJBF land with some of these women, ever so slowly, and see what works and what doesn't work, or if I can accomplish it.

Should be fun.

 

[Maxtro]

Oh I have stories, lots of tales of woe. I'll post the cliff notes.

Believe it or not my next door neighbor is actually a cute girl thats the same age I am. I was such an AFC that I successfully went from talking about sex with her, and exchanging stories, her wanting to spend a weekend with me in her families out of town house, just the two of us. (Which didn't happen because I didn't answer her phone calls, she was calliig me from that house, while I was at work and that number wasn't saved in my phone and she didn't leave any messages. To nothing at all. I don't remember how I screwed it all up but I know I did something, it was a couple of years ago. I see her walking in an out of her backyard a few times but I never get the chance to talk to her. I know I've had several chances to bang her and I screwed them all up.

At my work years ago there was a girl that may have been interested in me. She always initiated conversations with me, asking lots of personal questions. It only took me a week to get into LJBF status with her. After being her personal driver and emotional tampon for a few months I had enough. I actually told her that I wanted to have sex with her, and that I thought that she was screwing the other guys that were her friends. That pissed her off to no end. Effectively destroying what ever "friendship" we had left.

There was another girl at my work whom I was friends with. We talked about sex and private personal things but I was LJBF very quickly. She knew that I wanted her and she clearly told me that it wasn't going to happen. We didn't have much of a friendship and it all dissolved into her only calling me when she wanted a ride. I practically had my own taxi service back then. I called her on it, saying that she only liked me for my car and that pissed her off. We made up but she quit shortly after and I never saw her again.

All of this was years ago and I haven't had a chick friend since.

 

[tigerstyle]

All of this was years ago and I haven't had a chick friend since.

Interesting. I'm actually starting to lean in that direction as well, now that I am absorbing the Don Juan world, and finally getting "out in the field."

I wouldn't say that I'm being used in a particular sense by any of my friends, though I do notice that sometimes they only hit me up when they need something -- and now that you point this out I am kinda pissed. One of my "better" girl friends asks to use my washer and dryer occasionally, though she usually reciprocates in some form, like bringing over dinner... but still it's kind of the same concept only shes putting a buffer on it and thus I haven't realized this.

I can say safely though that I am definitely not in the market for more girl "friends" and I'm actually going to maybe try to "salvage" some in a physical way if I can pull it off. If it doesn't work out than so be it, I'm looking at shedding a few of them anyway.

 

[juice veteran]

guys check out the ganji games thread in the tips section, it is possibly the only way back from LJBF. the beauty of ganji is that it's almost irrelevant if you get the chick or not. whats relevant is that it forces you to behave like a man.

I managed to screw it up with hb 9 with massive IL, going from her leaving her LTR for me to becoming her LJBF because i acted like a pu*sy little AFC. Ofcourse, i didnt know then what i know now. Now see's calling and asking to see me and texting me all the time, I'll ignore her unless she chases me. I am too strong now i dont need her, for that is the way of ganji.

 

[D!ck Ramsey]

Best post I ever read on the topic:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43174&highlight=escaping+friend+zone