New Ladies on SS

[PhatE1vis]

It seems that we have an influx of women, I'm guessing from LS (I think I saw this mentioned in a thread somewhere).

No offense to these women, I'm sure they're all lovely people, but I came to sosuave to better myself through advice from men who have had similar experiences. I don't want advice from women. I don't want to give advice to women. I have enough of that in real life.

The occassional female perspective is fine, but this kind of muddies the waters for me a little. I think I may need to move on from here. Just a rant.

Anyone else feel the same?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I don't mind sleeping with the enemy, they tend to talk in their sleep.

 

[Poonani Maker]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u7WQGrZUdb0

 

[Falcon]

I think there's a term for this:

Blowback...

 

[Poonani Maker]

"I dance because it is fun, I love music and I'm good at it. Being good at it serves another purpose - it usually keeps guys away from me. Being able to dance well is usually too intimidating for a guy to use the dance floor grind as a pick up angle because most guys don't know how to dance. I don't go dancing to pick up men. If a guy can actually dance and actually dances just because he likes it, I might dance with him. In the rare occurance that a guy does attempt to dance up on me to cop a feel, he gets an elbow to the temple.

Why do they always try to sneak up from behind like you won't notice or something?

OP, I get the feeling you are trolling. Your entire post is worded in a spiteful and mocking tone. I WORK for a living too as many women do. I certainly don't do it to keep the fat off. I do it because I love my trade and it pays my bills. Hell, I don't even own a scale. Women don't just naturally get "fat pretty quick" anymore than men do. It has to do with lifestyle and metabolism. Something men and women both deal with. Women do tend to have more body fat than men, but if we didn't we wouldn't have the awesome curves you like to look at. If you had boobs you'd have more body fat too.
And it isn't always about being lazy. It might come as a shock to you, but there are people out there (men and women) that eat pretty healthy and don't lounge around all day that have weight issues no matter what they do."

The above is a response to the post http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1606153#post1606153 I made over there. The consensus among women there is that "men can't dance" even though they're off-topic when the subject is about women dancing, not men.

 

[EricInTheHouse]

There are woman here?....oh Jeezus, lol

At least they wil make this place smell better??

 

[ThunderMaverick]

You'll "move on"?


In the past week we've had at least 4 or 5 NEW consecutive posting females from loveshack. The ratio of men to women is still 1 to 20.

And with all the goofy sh!t that gets posted on the regular discussion forum are you really complaining? We have it worse with a lot of the male posters.

If you look closely at most of the topics that the new females started, you'll see that they're asking QUESTIONS not making statements of how men and women should be.

Stop whining.:cuss:

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

You'll "move on"?


In the past week we've had at least 4 or 5 NEW consecutive posting females from loveshack. The ratio of men to women is still 1 to 20.

And with all the goofy sh!t that gets posted on the regular discussion forum are you really complaining? We have it worse with a lot of the male posters.

If you look closely at most of the topics that the new females started, you'll see that they're asking QUESTIONS not making statements of how men and women should be.

Stop whining.:cuss:

but remember who we are dealing with. Don't tell me you honestly think their intentions are good. This are women we are dealing with first of all (in a man forum and that right there points out the shadyness), second of all they come from a forum that is much part of the matrix system of men.

 

[SinJester]

I definately don't have anything against women but I reallly don't see the point of them being here. This is a forum for MEN with advice for MEN given by MEN. Nothing in the DJ Bible, which in some ways is like the cornerstone of this site, is for women. The only advice women are going to get here is from poeople that are most likely hugely influenced by Pook. A lot of people are going to have bad experiances in the past from women as well. Then there's the people here who are players (I don't mean that in a bad sense btw). The thing is that mainstream society don't know or accept the rules and beliefs we have here. All this adds up to a place that I really don't see helping many women. I'm not saying they don't have a right to be here... but surely there is somewhere better for them if they are actually looking for advice?

Hope no one found a way to take offense to what I said above, I love all my bros here

 

[EricInTheHouse]

Ban The Woman, lol

J/K Just Kidding!...

 

[Director]

I'm glad to find that I'm not the only one who feels this way...and I'm also glad that someone posted this before I did.

On the Mature Man board, there are currently two threads authored by female posters, each asking some sort of advice about men from the men here. This makes no sense to me - I don't even post in the Mature Man forum, because I'm only 21. How could a female asking advice from men possibly be a topic that Mature DJs (or any age DJ, for that matter) would find helpful? The only thing of use for all of us here would be a better understanding of the female mind, but I think we've already got a good deal of that sort of thing worked out around these parts.

I'm not trying to sound arrogant, and like Elvis, I have nothing against our female posters here. PenKitten, from what I have read of her stuff, has been an excellent and resourceful part of this community, because she understands men on a fairly deep level, and she addresses her posts as advice to the men on these forums.

The problem I have with many of the new women here is that they are coming here for advice about how men work. As I see it, that is contrary to the purpose of the forum. I've come to this forum to learn about male-female relationships as they relate to men, and also how to be a better man. I've found the forum to be quite helpful in this regard.

Purple-Haze (and I have nothing against you personally, PH, if you are read this) comes here and starts a thread in which she openly admits to being somewhat clingy and putting her boyfriend through all sorts of sh1t tests and hoops to jump through, and she gets a flood of responses that balloon to a six-page thread made up mostly of all kinds of pointless hand-wringing and mushy-gushy talk amongst the women about relationships. Meanwhile, a post like Interceptor's Warrior's Scroll, which contains a wealth of rock-solid knowledge about what it is to be a man, doesn't even appear on the top page of the DJ Tips forum and only has about six replies.

That, folks, is a crying shame.

 

[SinJester]

Just something I want to add:

Most of the women that come here are caught in the matrix too.

 

[Commando]

I can understand where Director is coming from.

Yet at some point in life (male or female) you have to start dealing with yourself. Maybe that is what all that matrix stuff is about?

I read around, joke around and have offered serious opinions/advice where it may help.

However. I will say there is a wide variety of personalites/motives here.

Some of the theories and teachings are aimed at an overall good. It is up to the individual how they will interpert this 'knowledge' and use it. That is subjective. I would hazzard a guess that many will use some of this as short cuts to confidence and pay a price later. However, we are all on our paths, are we not?

You guys opened the can of estrogen by plotting and carrying out a 'crusade'. Don't be surprized if you caught a few females in the net.

I would further venture to guess that many are just lurking and learning. Whatever that may entail.

Carry on.

 

[Mistic]

If these women try to bring any BS over from LS, or any other source that isn't congruent with our reality, they will be made to look so stupid that they will not want to post here.

My advice to the ladies. Ask questions, chime in on threads, offer some advice, but you do not have a chance in hell of convincing anyone here of anything that does not fit with the qualities that define a man as we have co-created and agreed upon.

Your not dealing with average guys here. There are actual men on this sight who can see through everything you say and do. That being said. Welcome, and beware.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Purple-Haze (and I have nothing against you personally, PH, if you are read this) comes here and starts a thread in which she openly admits to being somewhat clingy and putting her boyfriend through all sorts of sh1t tests and hoops to jump through, and she gets a flood of responses that balloon to a six-page thread made up mostly of all kinds of pointless hand-wringing and mushy-gushy talk amongst the women about relationships. Meanwhile, a post like Interceptor's Warrior's Scroll, which contains a wealth of rock-solid knowledge about what it is to be a man, doesn't even appear on the top page of the DJ Tips forum and only has about six replies.

That, folks, is a crying shame.

Dude, didn't you read the responses she gave after the advice she was given? No one ignored 'Ceptor's post. She was actually the most responsive to it. She became move self aware of her actions and what she was doing. SHE ADMITTED IT and agreed with what most of the SoSuavers posted!

She didn't come her with bullsh!t, she came here with "QUESTIONS"! She got them and was highly receptive to it.

What' wrong with a woman learning about her own actions? Was it because the analysis was from MEN who deal with these kinds of behavior from girls everyday? Was there something wrong with her learning something very important about herself?

No one's post is being ignored. No one's post is being overlooked. Maybe YOU should post more to counteract the influx of woman replies?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

You guys opened the can of estrogen by plotting and carrying out a 'crusade'.

I remember when I was in Uni, studying physics. Once in a while there would be a GIRL in class, and all the geeks would give her all kinds of attention.

I kind of see the same thing happening here, now. If that's a problem for anybody, I would suggest a couple things:

1) figure out who the females are, and put them on ignore.
2) don't put them on ignore, and practice interacting with their estrogen laden brains in the same way you'd interact with a REAL woman. kind of like a flight simulator. If they push your buttons somehow, figure out to deal with it so you will be more NON-REACTIVE in real life. EFT can help with this. (see my sig). Being NON-REACTIVE is the ideal state of mind from which to pass sh!t tests, btw.

easy, hey?

edit: LADIES: All welcome IMO. No diss intended.

 

[MacAvoy]

Well I don't like all the AFC poster's here but its a part of life and something you have no choice but to accept. If you don't like it, you can either leave, or hit the ignore button. However whining and complaining like a child doesn't come across as a man who is growing and working to improve himself.

It also comes across as close minded. As for the discussion in the MM forum from the women, I find it beneficial at times to get a polar perspective however in Purple's thread, it was a perfect example of how DJ'ing works, her b/f gave the perfect DJ reply to her test. So it only served to reinforce from a women's perspective what us guys say.

Being a complete person means being able to look at all the evidence and weight it out and take what you feel is important. However you can continue to live in your bubble world and see how far that gets you.

 

[PRMoon]

I wouldn't concern myself too much about the number of women who came over from the LS sac. This site is still 99.9...well maybe with the ladies here now 99.8 percent male. Your problems will still be addressed in the same manner they were previously. Alot of people who don't know what their talking about will reply, making your issue seem not so big afterall and a few people who know their sh*t inside and out will give you some pointers.

There can't really be a "take over" by the opposite sex because that would require them to commit to being on this board, indefinately and that is very unlikely to occur.

 

[Mr.Positive]

What' wrong with a woman learning about her own actions? Was it because the analysis was from MEN who deal with these kinds of behavior from girls everyday? Was there something wrong with her learning something very important about herself?

The reason a lot of advise on this site works, like generating attraction, etc, is because a lot of women are very emotionally self-centered. When a guy learns this, he can push the right buttons.

The advise for men on embracing masculinity is priceless, IMO. This is what really changes lives about sosuave. The tips/tricks is a quick fix.

I think we should welcome any female posters, and females readers.

The more I learn about women, the more I see how little women actually know about men!

I think it says a lot that a woman would come here to learn how men really think, and what we are looking for in a woman. It shows she's just not thinking of herself, and how she could benefit.

 

[Director]

Dude, didn't you read the responses she gave after the advice she was given? No one ignored 'Ceptor's post. She was actually the most responsive to it.

Please read my response a little more carefully. I saw Interceptor's post in her thread (and thought it was helpful), but that's not what I was referring to. I was talking about [thread=141177]this[/thread], which is one of the best posts I've ever read on this forum.

Listen, I have nothing against the women here, including the new ones who have come over from LS. And I'm not trying to come across as whiny - if it comes down to it, I can just as easily ignore and avoid posts that I don't find helpful. It's not that big of a deal.

What bothers me is that this sets a dangerous precedent, IMO. I was perhaps a little quick to judge Purple-Haze's post - there was some good information in there given by people like Rollo and Interceptor, and it was an interesting insight into the female mind. At the same time, though, there were some things in there that I think could potentially lower the value of this forum, if more of this kind of thing crops up -

1. Evidence that these new women have not read much of the DJ bible.
2. Women were talking amongst themselves about relationships.

In an isolated situation like that, this isn't really a big deal. However, how are all of you going to feel when you come here and the top few posts are things like "What is a sh1t test? I know for a fact that I don't sh1t test my man" and "My man said this - what do I do?" and a third post is a 20 page long thread that consists of a bunch of women discussing relationships?

I think, perhaps, that if we get many more women, a new subforum should be introduced for our female DJs, where men and women can discuss relationships from a more female-oriented perspective. As I said earlier, I have nothing against them coming here to learn about themselves and men - that kind of thing can be really constructive. What bothers me is when those kinds of threads take away valuable space and resources from the kind of discussion that this site was founded on - advice from MEN, for MEN, about how to attract women and BE A MAN.