New here..Just bought these books...

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Hi all. I'm new to all this so I decided to buy a few books as im going on a long vacation soon

- The game
- The Mystery method
- The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership
- Art of Seduction
- The 48 Laws of Power
- How to Win Friends and Influence People

Is that a good list of books to start off with for a complete beginner? Should I add any more on?

thanks

 

[ChrizZ]

Hi all. I'm new to all this so I decided to buy a few books as im going on a long vacation soon

- The game
- The Mystery method
- The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership
- Art of Seduction
- The 48 Laws of Power
- How to Win Friends and Influence People

Is that a good list of books to start off with for a complete beginner? Should I add any more on?

thanks

that´s a pretty good list. You might wanna add the book "Rich Dad Poor Dad". It´s not about seduction, but it gives you a whole new different view on financial possibilities and it gets you motivated.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

that´s a pretty good list. You might wanna add the book "Rich Dad Poor Dad". It´s not about seduction, but it gives you a whole new different view on financial possibilities and it gets you motivated.

Which brings up a good point, what exactly are your goals [space]?

 

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just looking to change my life around for the better really. have always found it difficult to approach women and strike up a conversation (that doesnt get akward after 1 minute).

im almost 22 and ive never been in a serious relationship and im one of those guys who just sits at the bar or club just staring at sexy women just wishing i could pull one of them. actually when i think about it.. everytime i go out i expect women to approach me but it never happens. i never make the effort because i just hate the idea of getting rejected infront of everyone and i dont know how to make a conversation last...

ive had alot of people tell me im good looking which also makes me paranoid, as i feel if i was it would be easy to pull girls when im out or even get a girlfriend. i also have 0 confidence in myself which doesnt help.

and thats why im here, want to change myself so i can have a better life cause its getting pretty depressing now.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

just looking to change my life around for the better really. have always found it difficult to approach women and strike up a conversation (that doesnt get akward after 1 minute).

im almost 22 and ive never been in a serious relationship and im one of those guys who just sits at the bar or club just staring at sexy women just wishing i could pull one of them. actually when i think about it.. everytime i go out i expect women to approach me but it never happens. i never make the effort because i just hate the idea of getting rejected infront of everyone and i dont know how to make a conversation last...

ive had alot of people tell me im good looking which also makes me paranoid, as i feel if i was it would be easy to pull girls when im out or even get a girlfriend. i also have 0 confidence in myself which doesnt help.

and thats why im here, want to change myself so i can have a better life cause its getting pretty depressing now.

Look into the works of Leil Lowndes.

 

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thank you for the help

 

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also - which books of Leil Lowndes would you recommend in particular?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

also - which books of Leil Lowndes would you recommend in particular?

They're all good. Go to Amazon.com, read the editors notes and pick one (or two) which resonates with you.

 

[Street_Fighter]

I like books better as well,for me,the actual process of reading while invisioning and taking time out to fully understand and apply it to my life - the info REALLY sticks to me and I don't just understand the concepts but I truly remember the info because it hits home.If I listen or watch something,if there is too much info it sometimes takes longer.

you can find it on amazon.com,add the Domination Game by Joel R Anderson on your list.

 

[happyguy]

I back Leil Lowendes also. All her books spring from the same set of principles...you can find them in How to Talk to Anyone. The books is a little thin applications and elaboration wise... she doesn't include enough powerful or seduction specific examples. She expands on ideas from there in different books.

You might possibly be better off getting her seduction specific books, only to keep your focus narrowed.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I back Leil Lowendes also. All her books spring from the same set of principles...you can find them in How to Talk to Anyone. The books is a little thin applications and elaboration wise... she doesn't include enough powerful or seduction specific examples. She expands on ideas from there in different books.

You might possibly be better off getting her seduction specific books, only to keep your focus narrowed.

Leil isn't a dating guru so you shouldn't expect seduction information from her work. If you want to work on your confidence, become charismatic and a conversationalist; her work is top tier. Seduction skills alone doesn't create a good foundation.

 

[Boschy]

Look into the works of Leil Lowndes.

Seconded.

I've read two of her books, though not the love tips book, which I've just browsed in the shop. She is prone to recycling material between books, but most of the self-help authors do, plus many of the points are so foundational that having them reinforced is still valuable.

By way of example, one good tip of hers I use is the Hello Old Friend! trick. Whenever you meet a stranger for the first time, just pretend you have known him/her for years and are best friends. This frame of mind, which you establish beforehand, gets your entire body language, tone of voice, and facial expression to the level of being very familiar and inviting, high energy, etc. All the things you need to do during an effective approach.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...By way of example, one good tip of hers I use is the Hello Old Friend! trick. Whenever you meet a stranger for the first time, just pretend you have known him/her for years and are best friends. ...

:YES: I do this habitually (that's more than constantly). Especially to cut the line to get into clubs.

 

[Ace_McGregor]

Try Juggler's book, and Doc Love's "The System".

"The Game", "The Art of Seduction", and "the Mystery Method" are the best of the ones you have.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Try Juggler's book, and Doc Love's "The System".

"The Game", "The Art of Seduction", and "the Mystery Method" are the best of the ones you have.

A couple of those are pretty good too but I've seen too many guys struggle in executing what they learn in those books because they haven't establish a good personal foundation. Without that, they tend to come off as fakers.

Here's an example, I just saw a clip of Mystery's show on cable and looking at the noobs he has to work with, I only suspect two or maybe three of them actually become successful mainly because they have a pretty good, authentic personality. The rest will need to get a personality before they even start. They'll be going through the motions wondering why it's working for the other guys and not for them.

 

[Axcell]

Purchase some David D. material if you really have the extra cash lying around... but you seem to be spending quite a bit of money on these. You would be surprised how much you can learn from all the free stuff on the internet, if you have the spare time.

But remember, when you read the books, make sure you actually APPLY the techniques you learn into real life, otherwise they serve no purpose to you or to your game.

Good luck!

 

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Hi - thanks for all the responses!!! truely seems like a great messageboard you got here

I got my books today, 1/3 through The Game.. and its a great read so far. Its the first book i've read since i was about 10 (I;m not much of a reader) but im really enjoying it.

I think i'll get some of David D's stuff after I've read all the books and read/post on here alot.. I havent read the DJ bible.. essential read?

cheers

 

[Ace_McGregor]

You might want to also snag a copy of Neil Strauss' 'Annihilation Method' DVDs if you can. They aren't suppose to be for sale, but you can usually find them on ebay or craigslist for $50. It made MM easier for me to grasp b/c I could see what Style was talking about instead of reading from a book. Plus he points out some golden tips you won't find in any of the books.

 

[Heart Break Kid]

Be careful falling into the trap of all theory no action. Reading will get you no where, you must apply! That being said my favourites are 48 power rules and inner game such as Secrets of the Alpha Male by Carlos Xuma.

 

[XTR]

just looking to change my life around for the better really. have always found it difficult to approach women and strike up a conversation (that doesnt get akward after 1 minute).

im almost 22 and ive never been in a serious relationship and im one of those guys who just sits at the bar or club just staring at sexy women just wishing i could pull one of them. actually when i think about it.. everytime i go out i expect women to approach me but it never happens. i never make the effort because i just hate the idea of getting rejected infront of everyone and i dont know how to make a conversation last...

ive had alot of people tell me im good looking which also makes me paranoid, as i feel if i was it would be easy to pull girls when im out or even get a girlfriend. i also have 0 confidence in myself which doesnt help.

and thats why im here, want to change myself so i can have a better life cause its getting pretty depressing now.

I think I have a similar problem to yours. I'm also good looking, even relatives ask me if I have a girlfriend already, but is just that continuous bad gears of bad programming makes my brain a sabotager every time a opportunity arises with a women. Well, I've even had women walk by my side, make eye contact in bars or in the street, in the checkout store of a 7 Eleven a chick acted like she didn't have enough $$ that she got out of the store to get $$ and then returned while I was behind in line (maybe on purpose to struck a convo by me) ?

Anyways, I'm really frustrated, knowing you have the potential but days, months, year pass by and you spend time with your hand. Try to stay positive, but I'm still searching for the light at the end of the tunnel

Cheers from Mexico