"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Hey everyone,

This is intense...haha, I never thought a website like this existed! Yessss! I'm finally gonna get laid!! :p ... haha, just wanted to say wassup to everyone.

A little bit about myself: I'm 24, from Alberta, Canada. I'm a nursing student (mursing perhaps cuz i'm male). I work part time as a psych aide, and I'm also an exotic entertainer on the side (hey! they money is sick, and its a hilarious and super fun job!). I just started the dancing thing tho, only done 5 shows doing male revue style shows...(no we dont' jump around w/ our wangs out). I have tons of funny stories for you guys related to that job, so if anyone needs entertainment, just ask!

Given the stuff I'm into (fitness, hiphop/break, nursing, exotic entertaining) and the number of women in my life...I should be getting laid A LOT more! I think its because I have the game of a 38 year old morbidly obese star trek nerd who lives in his parent's basement masturbating furiously to 60s mexican midget porn (nothing against Mexicans...you guys have killer food!)...and dreaming of 4 minutes on the holodeck with that hot blond robo-chic on that show. In all seriousness though, its because I think I'm too much of a ***** to approach women...like the "cold" approach, plus as is kinda evident from here I think...i'm a bit of a goofball :-(. Plus I like to think I have high standards. During shows you meet tons of women many of whom are quite attractive, but they don't see me...they see my stage persona; and that's not really me.

So I'm here to learn...its SO odd I find. I always meet women when I'm actively trying not to meet girls, and when u're out at the club, I get stuck wingmanning and always get stuck with the fat friend! Oh well...its all good as my buddy gets some action or atleast a number!

I'm sooooo ready for "how to mack biatches 101"!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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IsiMan84 said:
That would be called the DJ Bible. Read it.
Ya man, its good material...nice to see that this stuff is available free! I guess what I'm really here for is...increasing my game in specific areas as I think I know the basics.

With my job you have girls throwing themselves at you all the time, but I won't settle for anything less than a HB8 at the very least. For me intelligence, personality and confidence are huge turn ons...with dancing you meet lotsa girls, but the quality is lacking most of the time. I can garauntee that lotsa really high quality women who are intelligent, professional and attractive bypass us because we're dancers, and have a bad reputation as being players, etc... Its fascinating to see how differently women treat you once they find out you're an entertainer...quite interesting from a social psychology standpoint.
 

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Fuglydude said:
exotic entertainer on the side (hey! they money is sick, and its a hilarious and super fun job!). I just started the dancing thing tho, only done 5 shows doing male revue style shows...(no we dont' jump around w/ our wangs out). I have tons of funny stories for you guys related to that job, so if anyone needs entertainment, just ask!
What exactly do you do as exotic entertainment? I have considered venuring into this. What are male revue style shows?
 

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What exactly do you do as exotic entertainment? I have considered venuring into this. What are male revue style shows?
Hey man,

A male revue is almost like a mini production including introductions w/ choreography that has to be learned, etc. Yes you are a stripper, but its unlike anything that goes on in regular "female" strip clubs. Yes you do lap dances (depending on the province/state, etc)...and in Alberta, the full monty is very rare, and my boss doesn't force you to do it if you don't want to.

To give you an example: my new set is gonna be S.W.A.T ...so I'll come onto stage like a SWAT cop in full gear kinda staking out the area ... I'll be using a song from the SWAT movie (SWAT 911)...then do my intro and then your songs start and you start takin ur clothes off.

I'm still very new, so I don't know it all, but generally speaking the 2 most important things are your build and dance ability. I firmly believe ANYONE can learn to dance, and as far as build goes most people can look fantastic with adequate discipline and determination. Other things, like having a nice face, and having a great showmanship can be important too, but I think the first two are by far the most important. Its a fun job man, let me know if you want any more info.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Im suprised you are here.....

You must be ok/good looking to get the job you have? No? Plus confidence I dont see as a problem for you as you have no problem stripping infront of a huge crowd which takes some balls.

Im guessing you also have a good body......

Am I wrong or are you not playing these things to your advantage.

From your above post you sound like a social guy.

Anyways Welcome to the forum. Have a read around. If you have any questions just ask. Whatever it may be.


Sarge On!
 

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I agree.. You most likely have looks and personality in your line of work... Correct me if I'm wrong. lol You're probably like me, just looking on how you can improve.

Welcome to SS bro!
 

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Thanx for the welcome guys... I personally think I'm average looking...as far as the body goes hehe... the dim lighting and drunkenness help a lot! I'm confident in my body for the most part, but I definitely have insecurities.

Neonbase, like you said, I'm here cause I wanna improve (haha I love your signature quote about weddings and grandmas by the way!!)...I'm not really sure what attitude to take with women. Like using a ****y-funny type approach may cause me to come off as arrogant, as male dancers are "supposed" to be ****y, etc... I like "just being myself" with women, and normally get solid results from this, even though I know its against Don Juan code. To give an example, I went for drinks with a friend of mine (she's an 8.5 w/ a "boyfriend") a week or so ago. I was nice to her, didn't even hit on her once overtly...just told her funny stories, etc. I'm pretty sure at this point that she wants to screw me based on how she talks to me now...haha...for example: in our last conversation I called her a "choking hazard" cause she's very witty and always makes me laugh when I'm eating...and she was like "ya? I bet you're a choking hazard too!" hahah! She's VERY flirty with me all the time now, and quite overtly sexual...I'll tell her about how we get grabbed by girls at the bar and she's like "oh, I'd only fondle you...after I bought you dinner" haha! She's also always like "ya, I just like hanging out with you cause I get to parade that bod around the street"...ya know just funny stuff like that. I'm pretty sure I'll bang her before the summer's done, but I'm not sure w/ her "boyfriend" in the picture, so we'll see what happens. I use the quotes cause they're not official or serious or anything.

Also, I'm still not 100% sure what I want from women (haha, yes sex is good!) but I'm talking about other relationship-oriented stuff.

Tomatoes, as far as taking your clothes off on stage go... dude, you have no idea, I find the whole concept of me being a stripper intrinsically cheesy and hilarious. That really makes it easier to get out there. The toughest part for me on stage is the dancing, the actual stripping is seriously by far the easiest! The comedy behind the whole thing keeps me in it man...not to mention the money, the team atmosphere and the funny stories!
 

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Well yeah...the dancing is kinda what i ment....Getting naked in public doesnt take alot.....But when people are paying you to do it.....I would think they are after a real show.

As for that girl.....She is DEFO into you. Talk about IOIs!

As for her /w boyfriend.....

Its up to your morals.

I have a rule set i follow and if you are not friends with her boyfriend....Shes fair game.


Sarge On!
 

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Tomatoes said:
Well yeah...the dancing is kinda what i ment....Getting naked in public doesnt take alot.....But when people are paying you to do it.....I would think they are after a real show.

As for that girl.....She is DEFO into you. Talk about IOIs!

As for her /w boyfriend.....

Its up to your morals.

I have a rule set i follow and if you are not friends with her boyfriend....Shes fair game.


Sarge On!
Normally guys women don't directly really pay to see us...the promoting bar/club bring us in on ladeez nights. The idea is that girls will come to the bar for nekkid guys (us!) and drink specials...and that'll bring guys into the bar after we're done our show, and the guys will spend money. We occassionally have shows where women actually pay for a ticket, but I still haven't done a show like this.

I love to dance. Unfortunately I'm horrible at it compared to the other guys on my crew, but I'm evidently good enough to be on stage...? The other dudes are really helpful and help to develop dance skills and ability. I think dancing (I only use hiphop)...is about feeling the music and the beat. The rest is practice and developing your own style. I'm told this comes with time. I personally like break uprock/toprock style w/ a lil hiphop flavor...but I'm only scratching the surface.

Don't get me wrong man, its not always fun...my last show sucked big time. I hurt my ankle on stage, put on a crappy show, almost got shutout for tips, and had a poor crowd response. I wanted to come home and call a crisis line...be like "HEEEEELLP...chics don't liiiiiikeee me!!!" :p ...but you have learn from your failures and go out and do the best you can.

Haha, I'm not sure what you meant by IOIs w/ respect to my female friend there...ya, I'll more than likely end up screwing her. Its logistically a lil problematic because we live in different cities, but she's coming to one of our shows in two weeks when I make my S.W.A.T debut. I'm gonna try and put on a great show that night, so we'll see what happens. ;)
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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STOP..... Fugly dude, don't even pull that crap, all you're going to end up doing is confusing yourself more and you're going to become a desperate shemale if nothing else. I'm just trying to help you dawg.

1. You set yourself up for failure with a name like "fuglydude"
2. I now know you dont have much confidence.
3. I know you're a weak *****.
4. Stop being a scared fearful *****, look your best and handle your girls, approach and get rejected, and what not, know that everyone is an individual, different strokes for different folks.

Like I said, I can already see it, I mean, who comes on a website and introduces themselves like you just did.:nono:

Good luck youngbuck :up: . Know that you can do whatever, you just have to see the bigger picture. :cool:
 

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ima str8 up pimp said:
STOP..... Fugly dude, don't even pull that crap, all you're going to end up doing is confusing yourself more and you're going to become a desperate shemale if nothing else. I'm just trying to help you dawg.

1. You set yourself up for failure with a name like "fuglydude"
2. I now know you dont have much confidence.
3. I know you're a weak *****.
4. Stop being a scared fearful *****, look your best and handle your girls, approach and get rejected, and what not, know that everyone is an individual, different strokes for different folks.

Like I said, I can already see it, I mean, who comes on a website and introduces themselves like you just did.:nono:

Good luck youngbuck :up: . Know that you can do whatever, you just have to see the bigger picture. :cool:
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "stop pulling crap"...or how I'm gonna confuse myself...haha, I'm definitely confused about certain things in life. I also don't understand how you aggregated the points you made to develop the conclusion that I would turn into a "desperate shemale". To address your points:

1. I get paid based on my looks...therefore, I think its funny to call myself the name that I do. And yes, some nights you do feel fat/ugly out there cause its an off night.

2. Yes, I definitely lack confidence in certain areas of my life. I'm confident in others...just like anyone else I have strengths and weaknesses.

3. See above.

4. I have to look my best to get paid...I don't approach girls, because quite frankly, I don't need to...and I suck at approaching girls too...which is why I'm here!

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "who comes on a site and introduces them like you do"...that's who I am man, I'm basically a geek who loves to train, loves to laugh and is blessed with having a fun job. Also, I'm not sure what this "bigger picture" is you're talking about.
 

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ima str8 up pimp said:
You're an exotic entertainer that has never been laid?
Hyperbole my friend...I can get it when I want it...and yes I've been laid haha, BUT... I don't get laid by the kind of women I wanna get laid by...which is why I'm here.
 
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:nervous: ahhhhh lolz :yes: I understand. Mang you had me scared when you first introduced yourself, all I had to read was a few lines and was like :nervous:.. Well **** I'll say you don't need much help then lolz.

But I'll say that we're different definetly. I'm just a ****ing slutt and I'll hook up with almost anything that has a vagina, when I get a quality girl I tend to be more respectful.

You're looking for quality as well. And let me tell you, you're already on a higher level than most here, so don;t buy into ****... you're str8 with me dawwwwwwwwwwwwwwg. lolz :woo: (----- dont you just looove that face lolz)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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ima str8 up pimp said:
:nervous: ahhhhh lolz :yes: I understand. Mang you had me scared when you first introduced yourself, all I had to read was a few lines and was like :nervous:.. Well **** I'll say you don't need much help then lolz.

But I'll say that we're different definetly. I'm just a ****ing slutt and I'll hook up with almost anything that has a vagina, when I get a quality girl I tend to be more respectful.

You're looking for quality as well. And let me tell you, you're already on a higher level than most here, so don;t buy into ****... you're str8 with me dawwwwwwwwwwwwwwg. lolz :woo: (----- dont you just looove that face lolz)
Haha, thanx man...for me, sex doesn't do a whole lot unless the girls "worth it" if you know what I mean, ei: very intelligent, w/ a cool personality, good looks, etc... It sucks because you don't get laid alot when you think like I do...
 

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Y halo thar.
 

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So how much can one make being a male revue dancer like yourself?
 

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Depends on the crew dude...

If you're gonna be on some of the higher-end US groups (read Hunkmania/chippendales, etc), you make A LOT... i'm not in that caliber, so I don't even look into it!

For our group, a rookie such as myself will average around 170-180 per night for basically 10 minutes on stage. Its all cash, all up front, so you don't pay taxes. Some nights if you're touring in smaller towns where male entertainers are a scarcity you can make a killing 300-400 cash per show! But again, this is rare...Stagettes at someone's house/hotel room, etc are a great way to make money too but I'm too new and shy to do these yet. Overall, with our crew and your availability you generally pull in around 2000-2500 cash per month depending on seniority, etc. Its not a lot, but its not like its super hard work once you have a good base in performing/dancing. All the guys on the crew do it parttime and have their regular fulltime gig going. Like I go to school, and have another job...I personally think stripping is the best job you can have when you're in school, because the actual rate of pay is so high...and think about what you get paid for: I get paid for acting like a SWAT cop, taking my clothes off and dancing and giving girls lap dances...its NOT hard haha! For our revue style of shows, you're essentially paid to party!
 
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