"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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New Freshman in college...need help

Touchout

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You know, I was kinda nervous when I first went to college about meeting people, but it is just so EASY anyone can do it.

First of all, are you living on campus? If you are your at least living with one other guy (probably) so that right there could be a nice social circle for you to join.

Second, check out that thread about college in the tips section, that thing is GOLDEN. He is so right too, meeting girls in class is so easy, and every other guy doesnt have the balls to do what your going to so it shows amazing confidence.

And since your on the hockey team your going to meet a ton of people, go to a bunch of parties anyway, so you really have nothing to worry about.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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my roomate has a g.f and is also new to the school. so no advance on that front
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Man up...

I completly changed my self when I went to school , that's the good thing about your situation , you can be who ever the hell you want to be ...you could even make up a nick name that no one calls you ( ive seen it done). My advice and what worked for me is to open up to as many people as possible , the first decently cool pepole you see go up to and talk to and threw those kids you will meet others . I did the frat thing to even though I was not really a fan of the hole male bonding thing ...it built my confidence a bit ...at most schools frats have mixers with Greek chicks and for the most part they are used entertaining guy's they cant stand ...it's not hard to be diffrent then the next drunk a-hole next to you .....partys work to , keggers and bars also.
Although the most luck I hav had is in class ....don't walk into class too late or too early but get there like 5 min before hand , sit next too a few girls introduce your self ....get a number or to or even an email and use the excuse that you might miss class one day or somthing . Your 100-200 leval classes are the best place to meet young college girls from all diffrent majors .
Best of luck , remember be who you want to be .
 

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i just cant do the whole class thing...idk y it feels so awkward.
 

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so....what exactly do you want us to say, were all giving you advice based on what has already worked for us and your just shooting down it all. The first thing you can do to make friends is try something new, maybe something that someone here has already suggested....
 

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Touchout said:
so....what exactly do you want us to say, were all giving you advice based on what has already worked for us and your just shooting down it all. The first thing you can do to make friends is try something new, maybe something that someone here has already suggested....
well from you, i already asked 3 times for the link to the page u were talking about because I cant find it.
i didnt shoot down anything...just because i say i want more, doesnt mean i havent gotten good advice. I'd just like to keep the conversation going...its not like this a one and done topic.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm going to be transferring into a university in August as a Jr. I'll have basically the same problems as you but with even less options. I'll be 27 when I start but I look much younger. I haven't decided where I'll live, on campus or off. Honestly I would prefer to live where ever the pussy is easiest to get.

The link you are looking for is, For the college guys who want to meet women
 

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Maxtro said:
I'm going to be transferring into a university in August as a Jr. I'll have basically the same problems as you but with even less options. I'll be 27 when I start but I look much younger. I haven't decided where I'll live, on campus or off. Honestly I would prefer to live where ever the pussy is easiest to get.

The link you are looking for is, For the college guys who want to meet women
**** man that sucks....im 18 and its still kind of hard being on campus cause without a bunch of friends u dont have newhere to go...
 

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just walk into girls dorms and grope them
Haha, I couldn't help but laugh.

Seriously dude, people most people in college want friends. You just have to make the effort and start conversations. I have most my friends from classes and sports. I played flag football for an entire year. I have tons of friends from that. I play basketball in the gym every once and awhile (I get my ass handed to me because I'm white, but it's still a good time).

I'm one of those shy guys and isn't sure to say hi to people, and even I always end up saying hi 5 or 6 times when going to class. So if I can get a lot of friends you can do it. Just put forth the effort and grope the women.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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