New DJ/Questions Regarding different systems

[DistrictofPenguins]

I know that there are a ton of books and stuff out there, and as a new DJ, I'm interested in squeezing the practical information from all of them. But a lot of the methods out there contradict each other, I started reading "The System" by Doc Love a few months ago, after getting LBJF'ed, and it's really opened my eyes to what women perceive attraction as and has really made me re-think my game. Now I stumbleupon (literally, I got here from using the stumbleupon bar) this site, and a lot of the principles that Doc teaches in the system (don't be the first to initiate touching/kino; once you dump the girl, there's absolutely 0% chance of going back, once her IL hits under 50% there's no redemption) seem to not apply (completely) to the DJ bible.

I think that Doc's system is slightly outdated and really although some concepts are great, some concepts really change with time and since this bulletin board is consistently updated, I believe you guys/gals are the most up-to-date bunch when it comes to being successful with your game. This bring me to my question:

I've been using Doc's system 100% inside and out for the past few months, and although it does work, it takes a LONG time and really it makes me extremely uptight and nervous when a girl says something about being busy and not have a counteroffer. I'm sure that there are slight modifications to be made to the system to make it more "efficient" and things to absolutely change when dealing with something other than pursuing a LTR. What from Doc's system can I salvage, and what should I discard, and what should I replace the discarded materials with?

Thanks DJs, I'm glad to be a part of the community.

 

[WC2]

What I've learned through the years is that it's not smart to follow one, single system. It's better to take good points from different people and make your own system.

What's more important is that you shouldn't be bringing 'a system' with you out in the field. It makes you look mechanical, and the more you THINK when talking to a woman, the less women you're going to get.

I love talking to women. I don't systematically think 'I want to lay this woman'. I genuinely like joking, making fun of, and laughing with the opposite sex. Put any woman, any age in front of me and I'll make her laugh at herself.

Now it all sounds easy, but to get to this point you go through a lot of trial and error. Go out in the field and just TALK to women. Make fun of them (nicely, but boldly). See what works and what doesn't. See what makes her smile, and what makes her fidget. If it works, KEEP DOING IT!

This as far as I would go as 'preparing' goes. Guys who prepare with lines and methods are dorks. Put a natural in there who can adapt and talk to anyone and they'll sh!t all over them.

I don't know who this doc guy is.. I honestly don't read much PUA stuff. I think the whole idea that there are systems for attracting women is retarded. Of course there are systems, but they don't apply for everyone. Different strokes, different folks. There's far better systems to read up on that don't involve women; aka self-improvement books/business/real estate books.

That brings me to my last point. Don't make it a priority in your life to attract women. Make yourself a priority, and succeed in your goals. The women will follow. Even if you're not so smooth at first, learn by talking to women. Smiles are good. Laughs are better. Get a girl screaming and you know that she's into you. Reading a book about women and applying it in the field is not natural. However, if you learn something on your own and use it yourself, what could be more natural?

 

[DistrictofPenguins]

That's a very good point, but how about the things that are discussed on the board? For example, you mentioned POA, and I picked up DJ, Kino, and IOI amongst other things. You mentioned that I shouldn't 'think' when talking to women, but I'm not asking for the methodology to attracting, but more of a guide to etiquette in relationships, which is what I think a lot of these boards have. (How to react to certain situations) Because obviously if I react to the first thing that comes to my mind 100% of the time in relationships, it's not going to go very well, there has to be practice involved so that when I'm confronted with a situation, I can use the information I've learned to draw a valid retort or action for the situation I'm in. And since the only reference I have is this book, I really can't do much but test the concepts pointed out in the book in the field with different women, and doing trial and error in that way. I feel that I've been successful with many things in my life, but game is something I'm new at and with a whole 3 years of college ahead of me, I think I need to start improving on this aspect too. Of course, I could live without it, but having the skills would be an amazing asset.