"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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new dilemna - why do I always go after what I shouldn't?

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Ok I've moved back home away from my oneitis and away from the hockey date girl who's still madly in love with me. I'm now living in a small town with 3000 people, half of which are under 24, so lets say there are 2000 adults over 18. There are 800 househoulds here, so lets assume 500 households are couples, so that drops the dating pool in half to 1000. Now lets also say that 20% are too old, so now we are down to 800. Suppose half are women, down to 400 eligible women. Now theres a high obesity rate here so lets say 100 of them are fat & ugly, thats being conservative. That only leaves me 300 potential women. I've already slept with at least 30. Now the bar is closed so meeting them in a rural setting is very difficult. However I've still got my FB's to keep me going.

So I'm spending New Year's at a neighbours who's an old family friend, his brother was my godfather. Now he's been a player in the business community and we'll likely go into business together this year. However, when I was there the other day, I noticed this girl there and I didn't know who she was. She was rather young but caught my eye. So the next day, he asks me if I want to go for a ride to the city, he's got to take his daughter to a doctor's appointment. I agree and while her dad is in the bank, she starts talking to me. So I proceed to find out that she's 21 but has got a medical condition which has resulted her being primarily a homebody.

Before I left out east, I spent some time with buddy and his son was there but I never seen his daughter but she told me she's been there 4 years.

My problem is I like her but its a very dicey situation. My buddy knows I'm a player and to what degree as he's been divorced for 6 years. So do you think I can pull this off?

However because of her medical condition, it might appear that I'm taking advantage of her because of her total lack of experience.

Should I talk to him and tell him straight out that I like her and ask for his permission. If I just flat out ask for it, he'll say no cuz he's knows how much of a dog I am. However I was thinking of making him a promise that I won't sleep with any other women for a month and I also won't sleep with his daughter for at least a month and take this slow and just date her. Do you think I have a hope in hell at pulling this off?


Or should I just try to do it behind his back (not a real option unless I can permanently hide it or hide it until she's madly in love with me and he's forced to accept it).

I know I should just walk away but thats not me. Even though I'm getting laid, I kinda want more than FB's, I like having women that I can have an emotional bond with.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

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Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I can't believe how jaded I really am. I've known for years, I'm jaded but I think this takes it to a new level. There are two huge No No's why I shouldn't even think about it, first her medical condition and secondly and more importantly her father. He opens up to me and talks business to me, in a small town where you can't trust no one, thats very important. It all stems from my need for a challenge, I come home and I've got all my old FB's that I haven't seen in years bending over for me.

However I'm also an idiot. I'm pining over this chick that I haven't even kissed / or even flirted with. Why? All because she started talking to me every time her dad stepped out of the car. That and because she's a nice girl, my one downfall, I always fall for the goody two shoes.

Thirdly, I'm trying to play Captain Sav a Ho. I have no idea why but I want to help her. Maybe its just my way of rationalizing getting into her pants. The more I think about it, the more stupid I think the idea is. However she does little things like asking me if I want some cereal for breakfast and serves me at the table (meanwhile its probably cuz she knows I'm on crutches and she's just being a good host).
 

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Just being honest with you and don't take this the wrong way, but your a moron for even thinking this way. Here is a guy that took your broke azz in, is thinking about going into business with you, and you want to fvck his disabled daughter. WTF kind of crap is that?

Unless this guy is white trash he would tell you to stick it were the sun don't shine. Actions speak louder than words and if you were succesful in life and with woman you would not have to snoop this low for some pu$$y.

One of the most pathetic things I have ever came across on this site.:down: :down: :down:
 

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Your problem is you want what is forbidden. Much like a spoiled child or chronic victim, you want that which you know should be hands off or what is someone else's.

You need to get over this mentality. It will kill you faster than a bullet and murder any hope of you forming a whole relationship especially in a small town.

You want to bang a cripple, so be it but know what the consequences are and if you getting it on with the runner up at the Special Olympics is more important than creating a solid financial future, God help you.
 

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dude, you're a sex fiend. as such, stay away from her.

if you were a one-women man id say maybe take a stab at dating her.

but with your past i can just see her old man walking in to find her with a ball gagged in her mouth and you sodomizing her while some drunk midget licks her ****.
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Lookyoung, buddy never took me in, I have my own house, I said above, he's my neighbour. In fact buddy owes me $400.

Secondly I don't know what you guys are talking about she's not disabled or cripled. Her illness caused her to fall behind in school and now she goes to an alternative high school. However she's an introvert and doesn't appear to have any friends.
 

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MacAvoy said:
Her illness caused her to fall behind in school and now she goes to an alternative high school.

:confused: She is in highschool? 21 years old and still in highschool? Are you sure she is not 14 years old?
 

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MacAvoy said:
Yes, I mentioned that she was ill before and as a result it put her back in school.
what kind of illness does she have?
 

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THINK!!!!! Most relationships end. Many after just a few dates. Choose between the man or his daughter. If you move on his daughter, you'll lose him for life.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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In hindsight, I wasn't really posting for advice, I just needed a place to vent as I obviously couldn't talk about it with anybody. The only reason I considered it was because it was a very close friend. The other part of the problem is that I've lived out so much of my fantasies that I've come to take them for granted and seek out new challenges to constantly push the barrier.

This has been a common theme in both my professional and now personal life. Its like a catch 22, because everything comes so easy to me, I value things less. I've always had the attitude that if I lose this car, I can always go buy a new one tomorrow. I've literally bought toys (cars/jet skis) to only drive them once.

I've barely been in town 2 weeks and I've got the head honchos in the town office creating a job for me, and other people looking to partner up in business. However its time to start putting more value on material possessions, even though its not something that I was raised to place high value on.
 

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"Mama always told me not to look into the eyes of the sun. But mama, that's where the fun is."

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