"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Never Be This, Never Be That, Wtf?

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Me and another poster was having a convo on this topic and I thought I would post a thread on it. I seem to have a hold on the attraction thing, but then comes the rule of “Never Be A Nice Guy.”

There’s an inner discomfort that I feel and I’m quite sure a lot of others feel. Question is, what happens when you’re tired of fvcking around and you want something serious, is it possible? If it’s possible, is there a guarantee of security,or would someone else be dipping into your “fund” while your back is turned?

I have a lot of friends that are girls as well, kind of like friends with benefits, we hang out and get freaky and shyt, but we are only friends and nothing else, and these are kind of my "road dawgs" we go to the clubs together, etc. Now...I've seen it happened to many times, even after I’ve fvcked a girl, her boyfriend would call and you would swear this girl had not just done shyt, lol. I mean I am not lying, if you guys have girlfriends that you think are sooo loyal, I've seen the most "appearing" loyal girl ever, and this girl was a straight closet slvt and NOBODY, not even Buddha would have known unless they seen it.

I mean, on the inside, I am a nice guy. I am a loving guy. And I feel uncomfortable, because some women I come across I might actually “like them” but she can be cheating and I’ll never know it. This “reality” kind of makes me feel like a mygnosit (I don’t know how to spell it, but a guy who hates women). Will I fvck em? Yeah. Will I make pornos with them, yeah, and I have made 4 pornos so far, that was fun. But it’s all fun though. It’s just that.

I have this spot in me that really cares for women, and I’m afraid if I embrace it, it’ll just get fvcked over. But if I continue to NOT embrace it, the more uncomfortable and pissed off I feel towards women.

I like to feel as though I have "control" over my life, but if I get serious with a girl I have NO GOD DAMN CONTROL over if she's fvckin the whole block. And based on what I've seen and done, shyt guys.

Maybe I’m just rambling. I can get women, that’s no problem. That's not the point of this thread, if you've been reading this site for a week and can't get laid that's your problem, it's too much information here to go get pvssy.

It’s just that god damn, I feel my inside saying,

"Can I actually like you a little bit? Do I always have to just be all about 'fun' 'excitement' wtf? Why can't we hold a serious conversation sometime? Why can't we just NOT fvck all the time? Why can't we just be more serious?"

But of course I'll then "expand" our conversation topics, but I still want to "love" them, but I know in the back of my mind, what she really is. And that's a female dog, one who would "fvck" is the right bone was thrown. No, no, no, lol, I don't want to sound like a bitter idiot, cause I'm not. But if you guys would read and think about what I just said, when I'm calling them bytches, am I lying?

DonJuanForever
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Phyzzle

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Are all these girls still in college?

If you want some commitment, find youself a babe 26 years young. There are some out there who haven't gotten pregnant from guys like you :)
 

jonwon

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DonJuanForever said:
Me and another poster was having a convo on this topic and I thought I would post a thread on it. I seem to have a hold on the attraction thing, but then comes the rule of “Never Be A Nice Guy.”

There’s an inner discomfort that I feel and I’m quite sure a lot of others feel. Question is, what happens when you’re tired of fvcking around and you want something serious, is it possible? If it’s possible, is there a guarantee of security,or would someone else be dipping into your “fund” while your back is turned?

I have a lot of friends that are girls as well, kind of like friends with benefits, we hang out and get freaky and shyt, but we are only friends and nothing else, and these are kind of my "road dawgs" we go to the clubs together, etc. Now...I've seen it happened to many times, even after I’ve fvcked a girl, her boyfriend would call and you would swear this girl had not just done shyt, lol. I mean I am not lying, if you guys have girlfriends that you think are sooo loyal, I've seen the most "appearing" loyal girl ever, and this girl was a straight closet slvt and NOBODY, not even Buddha would have known unless they seen it.

I mean, on the inside, I am a nice guy. I am a loving guy. And I feel uncomfortable, because some women I come across I might actually “like them” but she can be cheating and I’ll never know it. This “reality” kind of makes me feel like a mygnosit (I don’t know how to spell it, but a guy who hates women). Will I fvck em? Yeah. Will I make pornos with them, yeah, and I have made 4 pornos so far, that was fun. But it’s all fun though. It’s just that.

I have this spot in me that really cares for women, and I’m afraid if I embrace it, it’ll just get fvcked over. But if I continue to NOT embrace it, the more uncomfortable and pissed off I feel towards women.

I like to feel as though I have "control" over my life, but if I get serious with a girl I have NO GOD DAMN CONTROL over if she's fvckin the whole block. And based on what I've seen and done, shyt guys.

Maybe I’m just rambling. I can get women, that’s no problem. That's not the point of this thread, if you've been reading this site for a week and can't get laid that's your problem, it's too much information here to go get pvssy.

It’s just that god damn, I feel my inside saying,

"Can I actually like you a little bit? Do I always have to just be all about 'fun' 'excitement' wtf? Why can't we hold a serious conversation sometime? Why can't we just NOT fvck all the time? Why can't we just be more serious?"

But of course I'll then "expand" our conversation topics, but I still want to "love" them, but I know in the back of my mind, what she really is. And that's a female dog, one who would "fvck" is the right bone was thrown. No, no, no, lol, I don't want to sound like a bitter idiot, cause I'm not. But if you guys would read and think about what I just said, when I'm calling them bytches, am I lying?

DonJuanForever

Welcome to reality! Did you enjoy the ride, mind you don’t bump your head as you enter!


DJF makes you wonder if there is such a thing as total 100% commitment or we are just animals trying to fit a slot that was not designed for us.

Why are we so concerned about women having sex with loads of guys, men do it too.

At the end of the day we are simply animals driven by emotion and inner drives, with only our intelligence and perceptions to over-ride any of the LUST we may have.

Why can’t you have multiple partners?
A few reasons.

Disease.
Society.
Ideals on love and romance.
Religion
Beliefs.

Fact of the matter is I don’t know one person who has been faithful in a LTR spanning over a long period, not one.
And tbh why should they be, after all is marriage and LTR stuff of social conditioning or is it how we are.

Simply:
We are animals with a sex drive, we want to reproduce, the women ideally is the one who should tie the man down to help provide for her offspring.
The man on the other hand there is no reason but society doctrine to state he has to stay with a women, fact of the matter is a man will never want children to the lvl of a women ever. Also a women will put your kids before YOU, says a lot in itself.

A man was made to spread is seed as I believe, women way is to catch that man and try to keep him.

Society way is to get married follow religion and live happy ever after and there are laws and rules to MAKE sure when you go down this PATH you stick to it.

Don’t be shocked just accept we are simply animals living in man made state of reality.

Go out and fu** as many women as you want who simply cares!
Do what ever the hell you feel like, just don’t be shocked if you find women doing the same.

Ppl live in fantasy rather then reality.
Marriage is a religious tool and there is simply no point in doing it if you don’t follow any religion.
Why?
Only religion and your strong belief in that system will help anyone refrain from cheating under vows.

Otherwise ppl get bored, they get complacent they lust and love fades overtime and they seek it all again from other places.
We are simply selfish creatures, we want what we want it is that simple.

I am starting shift my thinking alot latley should i be concerned if my women cheats, strange question.
One side of me wants to say yes i would be very concerned, i want my DNA to be passed on not some other mans.
But another side of me understands it is simply how we are.
So instead of looking for signs of cheating, think it is wiser to look at signs of personallity and values.
For example if you shack up with a girl who is a bit of a goer, dont be suprised if you find she is cheating on you alot.
On the other hand if you want kids e.t.c.
Make the choice just be willing to accept at some point you maybe paying maintanance.
 
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jonwon, I see where you are coming from, I really do.

I am not saying we don't have a sex drive, what I am saying is this.
There is a place in me that wants to love "a woman." Not all of them, just "one." I really want to do that, and still go out and fvck around, or eventually stop fvcking around.

But I want and I feel that I need to "love" a woman. If I feel that for the rest of my life all I will be doing is fvcking, that pisses me off. I don't mind the fvckin but as I said, I want to "love" a woman.

Maybe I'm just rambling on and on, but this is what I feel, and I believe perhaps other guys might feel the same around here.

So what's my question? Hell I don't even know! Lol. I just want to find a way to "love" a girl, and not lose my investment.
 

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DonJuanForever said:
jonwon, I see where you are coming from, I really do.

I am not saying we don't have a sex drive, what I am saying is this.
There is a place in me that wants to love "a woman." Not all of them, just "one." I really want to do that, and still go out and fvck around, or eventually stop fvcking around.

But I want and I feel that I need to "love" a woman. If I feel that for the rest of my life all I will be doing is fvcking, that pisses me off. I don't mind the fvckin but as I said, I want to "love" a woman.

Maybe I'm just rambling on and on, but this is what I feel, and I believe perhaps other guys might feel the same around here.

So what's my question? Hell I don't even know! Lol. I just want to find a way to "love" a girl, and not lose my investment.
dont worry you will, but your exp' may go against you.

What am i trying to say, when your girl starts doing things you see as a threat from other guys you are gonna find it harder to keep cool and not be jealous.

Ignorance is bliss in many ways.

There will be a girl who will just knock you for six, it always happens.

look at some of the best PUA you base alot of your stuff on, even they have found there onitus.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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