Never associate those who share your defects...

[Porky]

Originally posted by Vincent

If someone says they are a nice person, then attacks someones views, are they really nice? People are not perfect lik, no one is perfect. I'm not perfect, your not perfect, the pope isn't perfect, i could go on but i think you get the point.

I'm a very nice person. I'm extremely considerate, but not towards people who I think have the completely wrong view about something. If your opinions are harmless, than I'll accept them.

If, on the other hand, your opinions and views are flat out wrong and inconsiderate, than I have no patience for you.

I know you wouldn't hang out with me, Vincent. While I pull girls you would most likely judge me at first glance without giving me a chance. Here is my picture:

You wrote in your post that you have no patience/time for nerdy or geeky guys.

 

[LikRetsam]

Originally posted by Vincent
I learned most of all, that it is incredibly complex, and that people are incredibly complex.
[...]
Some positive and some negative. I'm suggesting you find the positives and associate with them.

Point a: People are not incredibly complex. At all. They live following certain rules which may seem numerous on the outside but I'm sure you can narrow it down to under 10. Probably under 5. People have incredible potential, yes. But are not complex. Quite simple if you choose to see it that way.

Point b: Yeah people affect me. All they shape is my impression on them and how I react towards them They also allow me to compare them to others like them. You're looking at direct effect. They don't have that on me. Their effects pass a screening process in my brain. I decide how people affect me.

There are no positives. There are just people living their miserable lives. It is I who have the effect on people, not the other way around. What will differenciate me from you, I suppose, is that while one person will globally affect you, that one person will only affect me in regards to that one person.

Now excuse me while I go jack off to Porky's sexyness.

 

[Vincent]

Originally posted by Porky
While I pull girls you would most likely judge me at first glance without giving me a chance. Here is my picture:

You wrote in your post that you have no patience/time for nerdy or geeky guys.

I don't judge people on appearance, I judge people on actions, movements, personality. If you act confident, I will judge you as being confident, if you act like some snivling little prick, i will judge you as such. I give people a chance, like they say, the first impression is the most important, but not the determining factor.

From that picture, I see you as a comic kid that likes to have fun and joke around. Stop me if i'm wrong, but your views on me are wrong as well. I never said I "have no patience/time for nerdy or geeky guys." I'm an ME major going to a technical school. What kind of people do you think I deal with? You remind me a lot of people I associate with

You'd be suprised about me.


You should respect peoples opinions no matter how skewed and perplexed they may be to you. I think your just taking this post the wrong way. I hope one day your in my situation and you realize what its like.

 

[Vincent]

Originally posted by LikRetsam
There are no positives. There are just people living their miserable lives. It is I who have the effect on people, not the other way around. What will differenciate me from you, I suppose, is that while one person will globally affect you, that one person will only affect me in regards to that one person.

I could write a novel about everything we've discussed. But If I don't stop this now, it will evolve into a flame war, and I don't want my post to turn into this.

I respect your opinions. You have a lot to learn about people.

People might be simple on the surface, but think of people as a watch. 3 hands moving in a circle, simple enough. Open up the watch and discover the complexity that exists...

 

[aBAzLLnA]

When I first read Vincent's profile "Never associate with those who share your defects", I immediately thought, "This is SO true if I want to become 'better'". But then I gave it some more thought. I started to look at my friends, who are, in the eyes of some, the losers. If this statement is true, then I am getting nowhere right? Wrong. By hanging out with the losers, I found that because of their flaws, they were more human, more down to earth. They were their true selves, whereas the jocks were obsessed with how they look, who they were picking up etc. Granted, my friends weren't exactly pimps, they were fun to be around. Yes, they might be holding me back in the sense that I can't learn much FROM them, but I have fun WITH them. And in my mind, that is MUCH more important.

Instead of turning this good discussion into a flame war of two different views, why not tweak each one. To find common ground, I would say that each accomplishes goals they set out to accomplish. Just, everyone learns differently.

-Ivan

 

[LikRetsam]

Discussion forum: Discuss ideas.

You can trust me to be able to hold a debate without flaming [you].

 

[xomel]

this post sounds like a way to avoid insecurity.

I disagree - A friend is a friend. Defected or not. Its what they are good at that makes us like them. It is what they are bad at that we accept anyways that makes us love them.

 

[B-Lemond]

I hope this meant something to you. I know it did with me.

Yes It Did!

Good Post...

This brings up a GREAT POINT: Hang out with people that are BETTER than you.

Become friends with the people who posess the skills that you lack. Just like Vincent said, eventually you will become alike. Thus, you will acquire that skill that you once lacked.

Surround Yourself With Success, and will become SUCCESS

Surround Yourself With Mediocracy, and you will remain mediocre.

Think About It...

 

[Dogfish]

that first post is unfortunately very true - and I see myself applying it (leaving friends) more and more, because they don't do _anything_.

and i want to learn in life - they don't. I want to change, _evolve_, they don't.

 

[flippinfreak]

This is my biggest problem in life. It's as though the only people I can associate are those who raised me and grew up with me my entire life.

I've having one helluva time giving up on that.

anybody?

 

[PeterNorthisawesome]

Good post Vincent.
Now, would I have gotten where I am right now if I'd stayed with my old, "loser" friends? HELL NO.
I became friends with those who were better than me in the areas I wanted to improve and through that I BECAME BETTER MYSELF.

I'm jealous I used to have those kind of friends in junior-high but now in Highschool noone seems to be good at anything so it's hard to find a friend like that. But ya having one friend that'll improve ur life is more important than having hundreds of friends that won't do anything to help you. Popularity and reputation DOESN'T matter after highschool anyways, I wish I had few good friends.