Never alter your plans for a woman

[Bingo-Player]

A chick I’m fairly interested in texts me on Sunday to ask if i can sign her up to my gym

“i think great i get to spend time with this chick get to know her better and i get to see her in her gym pants”

She first asks if i could meet her Tuesday

(I don’t usually work out on Tuesdays and beside the fact i know this chick pretty well i still don’t trust women to actually stick to plans so I’m not about to change my routine)

So i say yea no problem i work late on Tuesdays so come down on Wednesday and il sort it out for you

This morning i get a text saying

“hey my friend wants to go to XXXX tonight now so do you want to come to that instead” ?

(Its an event which she knows i won’t go to out of principle btw)

I actually laughed when it came through i mean how dull does this chick think i am

Needless to say i didn’t bother replying and wont be unless she offers her pussvy up on a silver platter for me with a bow tied around it

There’s a few guys on this forum that still believe there’s good honest women out there

Personally i wouldn’t trust one further than i could throw one , they deserve to be treated like pieces of meat

 

[SmooveMooves]

Fact.

Good post Bingo-Player.

Your never supposed to bend over backward. I find it women always find it suprizing when we don't do exactly as they want. They're in awe like "wtf, my pvssy manipulation failed?..."

I do what I want, when I want, and stick to my principles.

All men should.

Men need to stop putting there life on hold just because of the possibility of pvssy. I know some guys that will skip out on funerals for it.

+1

 

[Bingo-Player]

haha thanks smoove

it’s a outright cheek !!

You agree to help someone out and then they try manipulating you as a thank you

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you

Women are so stupid

 

[stevo]

I disagree. Never? That's not realistic.

I actually don't see whats wrong. Maybe I missed it.

She wants your help but instead of meeting she wants you to come hang out?

If that's it then you did right not showing up (since its not a guaranteed fcuk) and she messed up thinking you'd drop whatever you have planned in a hurry to go meet her because her friend all of a sudden wants to do something at XY.


However if you're suggesting not clearing your calendar if you're meeting up with a girl? why wouldn't you? because you fear she'd flake?

 

[Bingo-Player]

Lol no you are too naive my freind

she doesn’t want me to come hang out she wants to see how far il bend over backwards to change my plans and go to see her

even if i agreed ( which she knows i wouldn’t because the event she suggest i hate)

she would merely come up with some lame excuse at the last second as to why she can’t

but at this point she knows i am hooked and she can start using me as texting entertainment when she is bored

by going ghost , at the very least it will bug her as to why i never replied like the other clowns in her phonebook

 

[stevo]

Naive? very kind of you :rock:

We might be saying the same thing with different foundation.

she doesn’t want me to come hang out she wants to see how far il bend over backwards to change my plans and go to see her

If that's it then you did right not showing up (since its not a guaranteed fcuk) and she messed up thinking you'd drop whatever you have planned in a hurry to go meet her because her friend all of a sudden wants to do something at XY.

However if you're suggesting not clearing your calendar if you're meeting up with a girl? why wouldn't you? because you fear she'd flake?

even if i agreed ( which she knows i wouldn’t because the event she suggest i hate) she would merely come up with some lame excuse at the last second as to why she can’t

My point is do not let the fear that a girl has the free will to flake be the reason you do not make plans or be the core reason of having a plan B activity. If you do not want to go, don't. If she's not worth the benefit of doubt that she'd show up, why go? why are you talking with her?

As to the initial girl? You did right, that was some BS she tried to pull and my reasoning for that is because it was last minute (with no guaranteed fcuk) however if you've escalated prior and she's going out and want you to come through, then it'd be naive not to go.

 

[pyros]

OP, I think you're being a bit paranoid, and you have DJ overdose.

It seems she wanted you to sign her up to your gym or something. Well, I think she can do it herself right? so if she wants you two to go together it may mean she has some interest in you...duh.

Then, next day or something, she texts you to see if you wanna join her and her friend to hang out...and you say you did not reply out of rage cause she knows you hate that place. Well...I think she just actually wanted to hang out with you with that excuse dude.

So many guys here become paranoid and think everything a girl does is a plot to destroy the Jedi, er.. oops, wrong context LOL, I mean that you think everything a girl does is meant to manipulate you. NOT ALL THE DAMN TIME MAN...

Jeez.

P.S.
she would merely come up with some lame excuse at the last second as to why she can’t
Either she has flaked on you before and you're right not to trust her word...or you're again paranoid.

 

[Alvafe]

OP, I think you're being a bit paranoid, and you have DJ overdose.

It seems she wanted you to sign her up to your gym or something. Well, I think she can do it herself right? so if she wants you two to go together it may mean she has some interest in you...duh.

Then, next day or something, she texts you to see if you wanna join her and her friend to hang out...and you say you did not reply out of rage cause she knows you hate that place. Well...I think she just actually wanted to hang out with you with that excuse dude.

So many guys here become paranoid and think everything a girl does is a plot to destroy the Jedi, er.. oops, wrong context LOL, I mean that you think everything a girl does is meant to manipulate you. NOT ALL THE DAMN TIME MAN...

Jeez.

P.S.
she would merely come up with some lame excuse at the last second as to why she can’t
Either she has flaked on you before and you're right not to trust her word...or you're again paranoid.

or she just was some validation,

first thing, she asked for him go to her on tuesday, if he said yes her little firend invite would still matter the most, and btw I belive she don't care much about him, if he told her he don't like this kind of events plus said tuesday he works late, she pretty much ignored what he said, she don't care about him.

still keep your plans first and let her tag along if she is interested is always a good thing for you, remeber guy she is the one who need to go after you, you jsut need to tell her what she need to do, what she will do its up to her, follow or fly you still do what you want and like

 

[DragonBlood]

OP, I think you're being a bit paranoid, and you have DJ overdose.

[...] Well...I think she just actually wanted to hang out with you with that excuse dude.

Im inclined to agree. Only SS could take a girls invite and turn it into a NEGATIVE power trip thing. Even if she wanted validation who cares you could have turned it to your favor and escalated anyway instead of smoking cigars with the guys online talking about how evil and manipulative women are.

Why didnt you text:

"Thanks not really my thing, why dont we go to <place> tomorrow?"

Be direct and reschedule on your terms. Sounds to me like she is interested and if she flakes on you, well you got your answer. Its very obvious she has no interest in the gym. Cut through the BS and go for the *****.

 

[El Payaso]

You'll be surprised how dense some girls can be. They might be doing something stupid but they won't actually know. Sometimes, they genuinely believe they're doing something good.

She might not see her invite the same way you do. A girl I was seeing once invited me to the mall with her and two of her other friends. LOL. WTF?

Therefore, just do what DragonBlood said and tell her "No, thanks. It's not your thing." Then offer a counter FOR A DIFFERENT DAY. Don't alter your current plans just to bend over for her.

She might be genuinely interested and the fact she's asking you out with a friend is a degree of interest.

It's up to you as a man to take her offer and frame it into another way that pleases you.

Good luck.

 

[Bingo-Player]

i didn't reply all day and stuck to my guns as my gut told me too

its lucky i did because i bumped into a mutual friend of this chicks this afternoon in the supermarket

i mentioned how she seems interested on one hand but then flaked on the gym i was then told she is apparently seeing another well known guy in town and is falling for him hook line and sinker

i gotta be honest i felt like a right mug because I've been screening this chick for a while and no alarms have been ringing

this sickening feeling would have been multiplied X100 in a couple of weeks if i had proceeded with this chick and started to develop feelings

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i don't expect much from women anymore

7 years worth of disappointment and frustration has taught me not too be too phased at all by them anymore you have to take them at face value or you are inevitably going to get hurt

there are clearly still a lot of guys on the forum that believe women can bring happiness to your life

i think they can bring entertainment, thrills and even company to a degree

however I'm starting to believe they cannot bring true happiness to you , simply because they are incapable of thinking on a logical level

everything needs an emotional payout almost like a junkie needs his next fix this makes them virtually impossible to live with unless you are prepared to make a critical level of compromise in your own character

make of this story what you will

some will say I've overdosed on the red pill others with more experience of actually dating women of all cultures and varieties i suspect will agree

 

[VladPatton]

Seems your gut pointed you in the right direction. Either way, it wasn't a 1 on 1 date she asked you to anyway. It was with her friend, a 3rd wheel situation. That's crap interest right there.

And all the while she was sweet on some other dude's man meat! Damn, bro...that's a natural-born manipulator right there.

Chicks and their love of obiters is just fascinating!

 

[skinnyguy]

I was supposed to go on a date with this HB8 on Friday but it turns out I can't make it. I'm not going to text her to cancel... Let her text me if she wants to confirm the plans. I know this girl has a lot of options so I am going to play it like I don't care about flaking on her.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

You did the right thing. The way she expected you to change everything sounded like a s**t test.

Never go out of your way for a woman, any time you do you're going to be burned.

 

[Thundernuts]

Bingo-player you make a damn good point.

+1

I've had a few girls try and pull this crap on me and it used to work but I am becoming more aware as to when to say yes and when to say no. Most of the time its just them testing the water as to how far I'll go for them without getting anything in return. This is definately something that women do that most un-experienced men will fall for.

Probably one of the best things about this site though is that you get to see what others would do in the situation. What i like most is that you didn't qoute some old poster, you just followed your gut. I think that is by far the biggest rule that alot of guys on here need to keep in mind when dealing with women. Always follow the gut.

 

[Dgwizdal]

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there are clearly still a lot of guys on the forum that believe women can bring happiness to your life

i think they can bring entertainment, thrills and even company to a degree

however I'm starting to believe they cannot bring true happiness to you , simply because they are incapable of thinking on a logical level

This. Pay close attention here youngins. If you think women are the key to true happiness in the end; then you are logically dumber than they are.

 

[Comatozed]

Good post OP.

I had a girl wait 24 hours to let me know she was free, at which point I shoulda aborted. But no I agree to meet. She flakes on the day of meet.

Some girls just like seeing what they can get away with. Next time a girl says 'I will let you know', it's an instant NEXT - cos even if they say yea eventually you're like 50% to get flaked on and look a mug in the process.

 

[Bingo-Player]

thanks for everyones input on this

i do believe a lot of us including myself are still giving women too much "benefit of the doubt"

they are way ahead of us in knowledge of the game and to think they don't know exactly what they are doing is ludicrous

anyway

just to add some closure to this post & topic

after around 15 hours of NC , the chick messaged me last night apologising for missing the gym and says she will definitely come next time

(she had realised that her plan had backfired and actually decreased my interest as opposed to increased it and attempts to regain some control of the frame)

it was late in the night and i ignored it , she's p*ssed me off

she then messages AGAIN today lunchtime - but this one is really clever and I've not seen it used for a longtime

she asks what seems like a serious question about claiming money back on something she works with followed on by 4 kisses at the end of the text

i knew something wasn't right and left it a few hours to decide if i will reply

eventually i cave in and simply reply with

"no why lol"

she replies almost immediately with " oh never mind , still can't believe i missed the gym last night why am i so stupid" xx

me - perhaps you'll learn eventually

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im gonna see this chick a lot over the christmas holidays as we frequent the same social circles so its gonna be real interesting to see what she does from this point onwards

as far as I'm concerned I've gained the upper hand because I've already stopped caring

will keep y'all posted

 

[AttackFormation]

The way you're handling this situation makes me happy as if I was the one doing it, it's like identifying with a character. Good job man.

 

[DragonBlood]

after around 15 hours of NC , the chick messaged me last night apologising for missing the gym and says she will definitely come next time

(she had realised that her plan had backfired and actually decreased my interest as opposed to increased it and attempts to regain some control of the frame)

Uhhh Ok man, if thats what your gut is telling you.

Am I the only one who sees how hard this girl is just trying to get you to ask her out? Which, from the sounds of things you havent done yet.

"no why lol"

she replies almost immediately with " oh never mind , still can't believe i missed the gym last night why am i so stupid" xx

Your response here is weak as PISS and you may have actually lost her here, You PUA mind **** logic is making you come across indecisive. Her response is disappointed. She is just trying to cover her ass. Are you really this worried about some other guy you heard a rumor about? Or possibly getting flaked? Are you waiting for her to put the pants on and make a move for you?