Net Dating A Lot More Work

[COD]

Well new stats are out boasting NET DATING is the "preferred method" to finding a date. But is it easier and the big question is.......IS IT MORE SUCCESSFUL ONLINE vs IN PERSON. The answer would depend on what you consider success.

ONLINE RESEARCH REVEALS that NET DATING has about a 10-12% success rate......(88% are not satisfied with the end result). Now there are those that think you just write a few words, post a pic, and presto soon you will be dating. IN REALITY IT JUST AINT THAT EASY.

Now I do acknowledge net dating advantages (NO cover charge, no buying drinks for anyone, you don't have to compete with the latest Lady Ga Ga tune pulling women to the dancefloor, no crowds, no noise, etc, etc........and yes the list goes on and on. NET DATING has leveled the playing field for shy people, blind persons, and make approaching less stressful.

HERES THE ACTUAL SO CALLED EASY STEPS

1) WHICH SITE TO JOIN-social net working sites, free dating sites, paid for dating sites, chat rooms, there are over 1400 dating sites to choose from. THAT MANY OPTIONS REALLY DOES NOT TRASLATE TO EASY!!!!!!!!

2) SET UP AN ACCOUNT-you have to join the sites community to become a member, that means inputting your info, stats, answering NUMEROUS QUESTIONS, think of a cool user name, agree to their disclaimers, etc

3) DESIGN A PROFILE-you have to convey who you are in a few sentences in a clever, creative, humorous, confident manner......THEN wait til it gets approved.

4) PICTURES-in order to reap percieved benefits you are going to have to upload VARIOUS PICTURES of yourself depicting social interactions and then wait 24-48 hours for approval.

5) SEARCH-now it's time for you to hunt for your match. You will have to sift through countless matches, view tons of pictures, read profiles, look at keywords, etc, etc

6) MAKING CONTACT-now you have to make first contact (winks, pokes, roses have little effect so you ae going to have to write numerous emails to various women and tailor each one as to avoid looking like a cut n paste and you have to be funny, cool, clever, creative, confident, etc. You also have to design a CATCHY SUBJECT LINE......VERY TIME CONSUMING!!!!!!!

7) RESPONDING-if you get ANY replies, you now have to read through your responses, then write FOLLOW UP EMAILS (again being cool, funny, clever, etc) usually 2-5 ping pong emails.

8) INFO EXTRACTION-now you have to get some contact info away from the dating site (I.M. Service, email, phone number) and remember their user name, face, IM name, email, their stats, and which email you sent them

9) MORE VIRTUAL CONVERSATION-most women don't give their numbers to people they havent met, so you may have to engage in IM, emails, conversations, THEN ASK FOR THE DIGIS THERE

10) PHONE CALL-now you gotta talk to them for a bit to develop rapport, and increase their comfort level. Again being fun, cool, confident, etc

11) SET UP A DATE-now you have to set up the specific details of where and when the meet n greet will take place, what they will be wearing, etc.

12) MEET THEM-its time to meet them in person to see if there is any physical chemistry, if you are not congruent with your online pictures or personality you drasticallyreduce your chances of a second date. More than 50% of the people who meet on first dates DO NOT go onto second dates[/B]. You also have to recall specifics about them, remember what they look like, etc ONLY ABOUT 10% look BETTER IN PERSON.

13) FOLLOW UPS-now you are expected to contact them again (email, phone, text, etc).It will take a minimum of 2-3 dates before getting sexual with the majority of women.

14) REPEAT THE PROCESS-if you are unsuccessful you are going to have to repeat steps 5-13 several times until you become experienced.

NOTE-if the chic is HOT, you can expect a ton of fan mail to compete with, imagine a chic at a bar being hit on by 100-300 guys per night......thats a reality of online dating.

I ASK YOU DOES THIS SOUND EASIER?????????????

Now there are tons of PROVEN tips, tricks, shortcuts to fast track you to numerous dates with net dating, again thats more time researching and then incorporating.

TOTAL TIME TO TALK TO ONE GIRL, FACE TO FACE WITH NET DATING IS ABOUT 4 DAYS INITIALLY, THEN around 1-3 days per girl.

SUCCESS RATE-if you consider all the prep work, the number of girls you contact vs met in person vs sex, you should come to the conclusion that it's really not AS EASY AS PEOPLE CLAIM..........if you lack THE COMPREHENSION how to SCORE ON THE NET, it may be a total waste of time.

DAY GAME OR BAR-want to send an instant message to some one.....give them a kiss, you want to see if they are cute.......look at them, you want a date, bounce to another bar, want to see if they like you...enquire.

SOCIAL ARTISTS prefer social interactions IN THE REAL WORLD........strictly relying on virtual crutch to meet someone is a wuss move and NOT EASIER!!

 

[Kirro]

Big DUH! Tell us something we shouldn't already know.

I could be an expert on internet dating. I've done it, had success & watched several guys do it for a span of 3 years.

I'll give you an example of 4 guys myself including & the results we got using social networking sites.

Guy 1 - We'll call him Slab. Slab is god of AFCism. He is the only guy in my life who has everything wrong. He has no game, no personality, no looks, no sense of style, his body type looks awful, no hygiene. He had a g/f he never got to touch who milked $400 from him in the span of a weekend. His main strategy, shower a girl with compliments and/or pervert comments & hope he succeeds or befriend said girl & be her emotional tampon. Failing this he will try to sabotage the game of his superiors.

Guy 2 - We'll call him Mini. Mini is also an AFC but as well as being average the A could also stand for angry. He is short & he doesn't have the most appealing face, however he'll talk to a girl, try to be sexual but come off more as a pervert or creepy, his next strategy is to be persistent even after rejection. He mostly runs into AWs or girls who end up embarrassing him. The girls he's gotten are fatties with self esteem issues.

Kirro - 7/10 in looks, pretty natural game. Not spectacular in any given area. Consistency has always been my issue. One week I'm pulling numbers left & right in the city. The next week I get chain rejected. I'm always used to blind success so I'm never aware how exactly to succeed. I've been told by some older guys I have monstrous potential but I can only use bits & pieces of it consciously. I'm also an S class jerk so you already know my love life is a rocky road.

Guy 4 - We shall dub him Fox. Fox is between an 8 or 10 in looks. He has killer game but at this point he doesn't seem to need it. He's got great fashion sense but he's very rocky financially. The guy is a classic bad guy, he lies, cheats & steals his way through life. Never worked an honest day in his life. Sly, clever, mysterious & a pretty boy, he has the highest success rate of any guy I know without much money.

Slab got horrible results online. He has never gotten a single lay from online. He meet one girl who came to his house, refused to fvck & he never came to his house again, she only went out with him when she had nothing else to do. Every girl he ever talked to online used him as an emotional tampon.

Mini did slightly better. Got plenty of dates from online(where I was usually his wing). However the only girls he got into bed where fatties & ugly chicks with self esteem issues, every decent to attractive girl either joined my camp or left completely. He'd also constantly fall victim to being used for money & attention.

I did okay but nothing fantastic. I occasionally got used by AWs but never spent a cent on a girl. I mostly meet decent to attractive girls, got most of them into bed but I had to do a lot of g/f stealing or cheating. One main problem I had was meeting girls who looked nothing like their pics or fatties(in which case I'd make an excuse & bolt). Obviously a good portion of these chicks had mental issues.

Fox did the absolute best. He rarely uses online dating but when he does he usually gets the job done. No time for AWs because he hates talking on the phone or pc for too long. I'd say he has a 95% success rate.

Moral of the story? Online dating should be used as a minor alternative, it should not be taken seriously or used to replace real time dating.

(If you guys want to hear more about the guys from my example or myself for a good laugh request it & I'll make a full thread)

 

[Naughty Ninja]

Excellent post OP. But as ALOT of people online do is take it as the "end all be all to dating". Normal people just use it as a tool to enhance their normal real life dating.)

You have to just go on a free site to not waste money. Pay for sites scam alot of users out of their hard earned money by trying to extend memberships, making you sign up for an extended period of time to begin with, and making it difficult to cancel membership. You can meet people but IMO pay for sites are a waste as there are no guarantee's you'll meet someone.

 

[Uberguy]

Some fair points there. But online dating has one key advantage over the real thing: numbers.

Suppose I'm out at the club looking to find some quality girls. There might be anywhere from 20 - 50 single girls, depending on the size of the club. If we use a 10% rule (I'm being generous; I agree with the Seinfeld axiom that only 5% are dateable), that's 2 -5 girls at the club that are worth an approach. Everyone else is just a waste of my time.

Now suppose I'm on an online pay site with a decent number of users (e.g. Match). If I live in a moderate-size city, there will be 1,000 - 3,000 single girls in my age range within a radius of 20 miles. Even if we conservatively presume that the quality of girls online are lower than the general population, and say only 3% are going to be HB8s+, that's still a target population of 30 - 90 girls worth my time.

Many people here are quick to dismiss online dating as a crutch, and I can see why, but it does partner well with going out and trying an approach at a bar. Does it take time to set up a good profile? Not too much, considering what you get out of it. It took me two hours to set up a great profile, and as a result, more than 90% of the girls I go after respond to me (it helps that both the profile and the e-mails I write use the principles of the DJ Bible).

Some think you can't find quality online. I'll concede that the last HB10 I dated, a model I met in real life, once shared her views on "losers that need to find virtual girlfriends on the internet" (being pragmatic, I did not bother to explain to her that she had repeatedly sucked the c*ck of such a loser just a few hours prior). But I've also dated quite a few HB9s that I would not have met if not for an online site, so I disagree with avoiding online wholesale. If readers disagree with me, that's perfectly fine. The less competition I have, the easier it is on my end.

SOME TIPS:

1) Stand Out! Much like in real life, if you're going to win a quality girl, you must be quality yourself. The top girls online literally receive hundreds of e-mails a day. If you want to meet/date these girls, you need to at least be in the top 1%. Thankfully, if you're creative, disciplined, confident, and use the techniques outlined in the DJ Bible, you will be.

2) Use a Pay Site. Free stuff like Plenty of Fish does not bring quality. At best, you'll find some HB6s or some HB7s, and a metric ton of less attractive women. Because there's little investment, many of these girls are more likely to flake...except for the less attractive ones. Don't bother with these unless you're a recovering AFC who's looking for some easy practice (and I personally believe that one should also practice with the best anyway).

Quality girls can attract guys for ONS/casual encounters easily. Thus, the only reason they'll go online is b/c they're sick of the bar/club/PUA scene, and they're looking for a quality guy. They tend towards the more expensive sites because they reason that more money = more quality. eHarmony has a much better ratio of women to men, but the quality of women is better on Match. And at least on Match, you can screen out traits that you don't want to see in your searches, based off things like age, whether they have children, and body type (HINT: "Curvy" is code for "Fat but in denial.")

3) Write Well. If you go online, your words matter even more than your clothes, appearance and body language. At least until you meet. Don't spam 50 girls with e-mails in one night. Instead, focus on writing quality e-mails to quality girls, and you'll increase the chances they'll write back. It's better to attract 3 HB9s than 30 HB6s.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

I simply send an email with the hideline: Does your boyfriend know?

with the copy and pasted text in the body:

"Does your boyfriend know you have a Plenty of Fish account? Nice try, but you aren't fooling the intelligent people! You are wrong woman! The poor guy probably is in love with you and you're looking to upgrade. Tsk. Tsk. =( "

ALOT of them reply, and no matter what I then reply back with:

"I was just going on a hunch seeing that you lied on your profile."

They will then respond with a "What?" or "How did I lie?" then you can go off of their profile info and make some C/F reply or a little neg hit etc. and take it from there.

I'm telling you it works.

 

[COD]

OR TRY THIS..........."GOT SOME BAD NEWS FOR YOU"

then follow with "ALL the men that wrote you just want you for sex".......anyways I'M STEVE..............blah blah blah.