"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Neil Strauss, Style. A video of him.
- Thread starter nishbuk
- Start date
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
ROFLCOPTERS....Originally posted by tristan22
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What are you his spokesperson? There is no hatred in my reply, just mere opinion--if this threatens you, so be it! I do not live vicariously through these individuals, i go out and make my own success! Although i agree that they do write about some interesting things, their methods overcomplicate the act of getting dates. How do you know this guy is getting tons of girls and dates? Having knowledge about a subject and dating any girl of your choosing, are two different scenarios!
I have seen the above mentioned crap methods applied in the field. Mind you, by individuals who post here--and they failed.........MISERABLY. The girls practically tripped and fell trying to escape these guys!
Girls want fun and excitement, not some moron coming up to them and asking them for their female opinion! The 3 second rule, is the only rule i follow. I approach without hesitation, if the chemistry is there and the girl is fun to talk with, i ask for her #--no more, no less.
If you are friends with this guy, i will bet him $1000.00 he cannot get the caliber of girls he says he can in my neck of the woods.
Dude you really dont' know what you are talking about. Style, Ross Jeffries, Mystery, David D, among others were the real pioneers of the online community. What Style has accomplished has been verified, re-verified, documented both on the net and on paper, supported by video, by the many people that have seen him in action, other top PUAs, mASF, Mystery's lounge, fastseduction.com (Formhandle, one of his friends runs fastseduction), journals entries, countless witnesses, and testimonies from the women themselves!
Seriously, go and do some of your own research on the online community and you'll see exactly what the rest of us from seduction lair, and alt.seduction know.
Jon341427
Don Juan
yes, but him putting it on TV will captivate more people then if he had not. eventually it's going to be common ground that this stuff works and all guys will be trying to do it. it's just a matter of time, and when that happens the stuff will stop working!Originally posted by Aaron B
I disagree. Anyone who is determined to change their success with women will find the info. There is too much on the web for them not to.
And a large % of those who know nothing of "our world" are going to read the book but not make any changes in their lives and will still have limited success with women.
The real kicker for men is seeing Neil Strauss's hot girlfriend in the audience. That was some good PR advertising work there for those that needed "proof".Originally posted by Jon341427
yes, but him putting it on TV will captivate more people then if he had not. eventually it's going to be common ground that this stuff works and all guys will be trying to do it. it's just a matter of time, and when that happens the stuff will stop working!
naoi deag se deag
Senior Don Juan
Don't flame on it, just think about it.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
2. I could care less about the success the guys you obviously sweat have!
3. I read the posts here at SS, and the lack of success people are having is apparent. I blame this on lack of approaching and overcomplicating the art of seduction. Guys like Mystery, Ross Jeffries, etc. make money off of gullible individuals much like yourself. You can preach your/their techniques all you want, but the bottom line is, if you don't put in the effort--you aren't going to get dates/laid. Everyone comes here looking for the magic answer, the magic book, the magic video, yet they don't want to explore outside their comfort level and do the work.
4. I have met 30+ people from this board. Individuals who worship and practice the individuals you mentioned. I watched them publicly humiliate themselves (getting cussed out, yelled out, walked away from, etc.) by going up to groups of girls and using those ridiculous scenarios they are told to use. If i would have taped these approaches, i would be a multi-millionaire right now(on comedy alone)............they were that bad! I actually felt sorry for the guys, it was that sad to watch.
5. GUYS: You hold your own answers and you write your own story! Keep approaching and i guarantee the answers and success will eventually come.
6. I see, you are now an AFC-- if you find success outside of the witch doctors indoctrinating techniques. You guys need to find your own identity........REALLY!.
...........if anyone on the board wants to hang out! Shoot me a PM. We'll see who is AFC and who is not!