"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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NegHits and ****y Funny

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I am new to the site and is now learning the PUA ways.

NEGHITS

here is a quote from the DJ board from earlier under the topic "Clarifying C+F and Neg Hits"

As for Neg Hits, they’re just a way of showing that you’re not intimidated or humbled by a woman. They are NOT insults!! They should NEVER be personal or be directed at someone’s flaws. They should always be lighthearted, generic and used in a playful and teasing manner. Again, timing is essential! If you start teasing a woman while she’s preoccupied or not in the mood, don’t expect her to be receptive. And don’t try to neg hit a b*tch. Women don’t often act b*tchy with guys they like; they use it to filter out the one’s they’re not interested in, so if that’s the vibe you are getting from her take the hint and save your dignity. You certainly won’t win her interest by insulting her clothes or pointing out she’s a little flabby, and getting into an exchange of insults is petty and degrading.

Good neg hits can refer to minor mistakes, misunderstandings or personality quirks. Sitcoms such as Friends are a very good example of neg hits. The characters are constantly digging at each other in a playful manner, but it’s rarely anything personal.
Clarifying C+F and Neg Hits

I thought that neg-hits were use to bring down the ***** shield so why can't they be used on *****y women.

Can neghits be used as an opener in a Club?

Can they be used as an opener in a very very light manner?

****y Funny

Is ****y funny simular to neghits?

Can ****y funny make you look like a clown?
 

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Come on Guys I need to know this stuff.
 

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hey man,

just to let you know, somewhere in the bible is senor fingers weapons of mass seduction.. READ IT, he talks about the five flavours of ****y and funny... neg hits and stuff!

just remember though, it has to be funny otherwise it just insults them and you come of as a jerk,

types of humour...
-reversing!
the reverse, lead your story down a cirtain path or direction so that the girl thinks she knows what the answer would be;

her"so what do you do for fun"
me" you know ime into all the stuff guys are into like-
cooking, cleaning and ironing"

at the end of your sentance say the opposite of whats expected and you will get a laugh, just for the supprise!

supprise
dead pan, dry humer, sarcasm is all good...
when your in the middle of a serious convo say something unexpected, thats funny,...

me"hey, i like your jumper"
her"oh thanks"
me"my toothless old granny has one just like it"

funny discriptions,

instead of saying, "my gran smells!"

say"my gran stinks worse than a pair of old socks"


now when you neghit or get ****y, you have to be funny...
otherwise it doesnt work!

i was listening to a lecture at work when a lady asked if she could sit by me!

her"excuse me, can i sit there?"

me"oh no, you cant sit on my lap, but you can sit there..."

her!"ha ha ha, lol ok thanks"

that was a great opener wich lead to her giving her number!

:crackup:
 

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My interpretation of ****y and funny is that you should just be witty and playful. Just play around and have fun, not being intimidated that she actually has breasts AND a vagina...scary stuff huh? :p

I think the concept of neg hits is to seperate yourself from the other guys that drool over her and are amazed by her beauty and feels a sudden urge to tell her that she's above you..I think the ideal situation is to feel just slightly better than the girl..and making HER feel that you are slightly better than her. Giving the occational neg-hit (presented as a compliment, only not interpreted as such by her) will take her of the pedestal and make her wonder about you. "Who is this guy who doesn't worships me and doesn't acknowlege my beauty?" He must be something...that's the theory i think.

I've had alot more success when i'm just cracking jokes and tease her. My problem is that I'm having trouble doing this on a consistant basis. I can do it to some girls, but I still get more "wussy" around the girls i really like and the ones i'm extremely attracted to. Still working on it though.

Neg hits can definatley be used as an opener in a club. Just make sure you present it as a compliment. Don't overuse them. That's just insulting her and shows lack of tact and social skills.

****y&and funny should be introduced after feeling her out (not touching her, but after finding out if she's receptive to it or if you have to go for another style). You can make fun of her and actually say quite rude things, but it's VERY important that you present it right. If you offend her, then you're screwed. Always have a smile and a wink ready. If she teases you back, you're practically in her pants already....

Sure ****y and funny can make you look like a clown, but I think a big red plastic nose will be better :D
 

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Thanks guys Sounds good.

Its sometimes hard to believe that something such as a neg hit actually works. I still can't get over it. My buddy tells me that neg-hits are simple except people make them complitcated and difficult. Can you use them as openers on J.lo lookalikes and 9's and 10's outside a club?
 

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When I say outside the club I mean like on the street or in a shopping mall?
 

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Kalel, there's a thread somewhere about Neg Hits and apparently they work best on a HB8+ or a girl who thinks she's a HB8+ when she's really a HB6 (usually a daddys girl).
 

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to be honest with you, if you just start neghitting girls for no reason they will most likley think your a weardo!

if your cold approaching then its best to save the c&f, neghits, or whatever until you have built a little repor and started vibing...

best opener i think:

"hiya, can you just show me where the cofee shop is?"

"thanks, hey do you live around here?"
"no, so where you come from???
"hey, ive been there, i was abused by an aroused old lady...., its prety rough place huh...
say, do you have an email?

or

"yes you do live here... cool, maybe we could catch up later, do you have an email?

yes... brilliant, write it down there..


as she writes it say,>

hey, stick your number down there too

a quick opener, its genuine, it seems natrual!
 

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That quote about the aroused lady and your comment about the rough area is both C+F and Neg Hitting! Sneaky!
 

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I disagree and think they work on anyone above a HB6 as long as they think they're a HB8+. Heck, they'll work on anyone who hasn't got a complex about their appearance.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Originally posted by Leah
That quote about the aroused lady and your comment about the rough area is both C+F and Neg Hitting! Sneaky!
ahh poops, my bad
 

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Use neg-hits well, at the appropriate time, and you'll score. If they seem false, or incongrous they look like an act. I wouldn't open with one either, but maybe it works for some people.

Personaly I rarely comment on a woman's appearance, it keeps them guessing. I'm more likely to wait for them to say something stupid - doesn't usually take long - then bust them for it. Naturally if they are not very attracted to you already they are less likely to enjoy being teased. Always look for IOIs.

The best subjects to tease HB9s & 10s about are

Being a naughty little girl

If they are liberal, accuse them of being a bit racist. Or homophobic. Make them prove themselves to you.

How OTHER MEN are stupid enough to fall for their **** (I wouldn't raise this issue out of choice, but if a woman talks about how she expects to be treated she is testing you to see if you will give her your balls. Separate yourself from the chumps by showing you are not going to be doing things her way).

Being a spoilt little princess

Be mock-offended by something they say or do. "How dare you!"

Her crummy taste in music.

That she's a slut.

That she's frigid.

That she has learning difficulties.

And remember you MUST BE FUNNY AND IT MUST SEEM NATURAL. If she's smiling or laughing it's working. If she looks shocked and says 'how dare you!' but can't quite hide her big smile, you've made her wet.

You know that shocked-yet-turned-on look? That's my favourite.
 

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Well from what I hear they can be great openers. Has any one tried?
 

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Originally posted by \O/
My interpretation of ****y and funny is that you should just be witty and playful. Just play around and have fun, not being intimidated that she actually has breasts AND a vagina...scary stuff huh? :p
Dude stop intimidating people!
 

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it really helps confidence, if instead of focusing on a girls looks; you are actually looking for "mistakes" with her.
 

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Has anyone tried using a neghit as an opener? I know that people think its a bad idea but just want to know.
 

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I haven't used a neg-hit as an opener, though I thought about it. How about you field test it, and tell us how it goes.
 

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RE:

everyone is becoming more and more hip to what neg hits are so they are going to become less useful as times go back
 

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What do you mean Seldomseen?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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