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neg hits vs playfull teasing

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Its said that you should'nt neg hit a girl too much. early on, 3 neg hits for a 10, 1-2 for an 8, and the rest dont even need to be negged. The confusion i have is i tend to flirt alot and ill make jokes and tease them about things but im not sure if that really counts as a neg hit. because if it does, then i could be negging them like 6 times in a convo and not even notice.

what truly seperates a neg hit from playful teasing?
heres my guess: let me know if im right.

my assumption is that a neg is said with a serious face with the intent of giving a serious compliment about something. but on the other hand, it also includes a put-down but it shouldnt be obvious that this was even part of your intentions.

and playfull teasing, you just tease/make fun of them/play around with them in a friendly manner so they join in and do it back. that you can do as much correct?

then again. when you take a look at the 'i like your hair...is it real" "ahh it moved" is designed to be a neg yet is flirty/humorous at the same time.

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Well the neg is a subtle way to get a girl's validation down as that leads to her seeking validation/acceptance from you.

c+f teasing/ballbusting also do the same, but in a less subtle way.

Depends on ur style and personality. If you are a more serious and sophisticated guy then u should go for a subtle neg, in a way that it is not apparent that u intended to put her down

If you are a ****y, fun jerkish type of dude then you can get away with tremendously hard ballbusting and teasing (even physical stuff like spanking the girls ass) as long as u do it with enough authority

Now there are levels of ****y and funny teasing.

Light teasing is relaxed and playful, usually works great on most girls but on its own is rather weak for most hot chicks. When you do it right, the girl will be smiling and giggling, and the emphasis here is FUN

Medium teasing is more antagonistic, and includes stuff like push/pull, open loops and most frame-setting. It works very well on confident girls, but too much on a shy/sensitive type of girl can go bad. If you do it and the girl does it back to you (engaging in a verbal sparring contest type of convo), its a big sign that its going great and u should continue. If its going right, the girl will be going "What??" "Hey!!" "Oh you are so mean!" etc. but with a smile, and will usually touch you or playfully pretend to punch u in the stomach etc. The emphasis here is the TENSION

Hard/High-impact teasing is similar in effect to a neg, but its usually very unsubtle. It shows the girl that u got balls and don't give a **** about her opinion of you. Its usually something that another guy would never dare say to a girl like her. It shouldnt be an insult though - its great u say this to the girls' friends (and she overhears it) and they laugh at her expense. If you do it to a low-self-esteem/shy girl, she'll hate you. If you do it in a wrong way so it sounds as an insult, she'll hate you. If you do it too much, she'll hate you. But if u do it right, on the right type of girl and with moderation, the attraction will sky-rocket. The girl will be going "OMG, i can't believe he just said that to me. Who does he think he is? Why am i getting so wet??" and will be looking at you with a "deer caught in headlights" expression and in loss of words. If very confident she'll then ****test you. The emphasis here is the IMPACT

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oh so your saying, that they both have the same effect. do one or the other?

if your serious, go for a serious neg hit but dont do it too much.

if your a fun c/f teasing/ball busting guy then tease them all you want. just be careful of low esteem girls.

gotcha, thanks ; )
 

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FINALY SOMEONE WHO KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT.

NICE JOB PANTHER:up: !!

I hate seeing people who are like master don juans and they give the dumbest advice becasue they don't know anything. I mean if your here this long to get to a master then you should know how to play teh game pretty well.
 

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ya i used to neg hits on girls a lot, but didn't realize some of them have kinda low self esteem so they take my teasing seroiusly and they went backfire :(
 

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Originally posted by iCY
then again. when you take a look at the 'i like your hair...is it real" "ahh it moved" is designed to be a neg yet is flirty/humorous at the same time.
:crackup: That one is great! I have to try it.

You are worrying too much about set rules. 'early on, 3 neg hits for a 10, 1-2 for an 8, and the rest dont even need to be negged'

What the hell is that? Are you going to keep a tally and once you reach a certain amount just not do anymore? The same could be said of any 'techniques'.

'Uhh sorry babe, I'm not going to be making anymore jokes tonight because I've already made my 7 jokes, and according to my information thats how many I should say to someone like you in a particular meeting.'

Say what you like, act how you like, whats the difference? Who cares. If you want to make serious neg comments, then do it. If you prefer the ****y/funny comments (I do, much more fun) then do that instead.
 
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