"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Neg hits......they can ruin us all....

Craig Reeves

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Now seeing as to how my knowledge is generally ignored on this forum....I have decided anyway to post something that I feel is of great importance to me, seeing as to how so many people on this site are mislead into thinking wrongly about this issue.

I want to talk about "neg hits".

Just in case some of you are not aware of what a neg hit is, it is a critisism about a woman that is said to her (usually, in a funny or ****y way) to make her unable to see you as somebody she is too good for, or to help her no longer see you as a "nice guy", thus, making her feel attraction to you.

Personally, I disagree with neg-hits not exactly because of what is being done, but because of WHY they are used by so many people on women.

When AFC's see a woman they would like to approach or get a phone number or email from, they take a look at her and rate her in comparison to himself. AFC's will look at her and immediatly think (if she's attractive enough): This girl is out of my league. She's too good looking for a guy like me, so if I'm going to get her, I'm going to have to do something EXTRA to gain her approval and PROVE to her that I'm on the same level with her.

AFC's assume that any attractive woman would think that she is better than him because HE feels as if she is.

Now what does this have to do with neg hits, you ask?

Simple, guys who practice this sort of thing practice it for AFC REASONS. They see a beautiful woman, immediatly think, "Uh oh, she's attractive, so she's out of my league and KNOWS it. So I better make her THINK that I am worthy of her attention, so that I'll have a chance with her."

The truth is this......if a woman truly felt that she was too good for you, you would have felt it and known it the first 5 seconds you talked to her. Women will look at you and decide RIGHT THEN whether or not they are "out of your league" or not, and you will EASILY be able to tell. Trust me.

So what should you do if you run across a woman who feels that because she's attractive, she's too good for you? Do you just no longer approach women who are attractive? ABSOLUTELY NOT! You FIND SOMEBODY WHO ISN'T STUCK UP. BECAUSE *ANY* WOMAN WHO TAKES ONE LOOK AT YOU AND DECIDES THAT YOU AREN'T "CUTE" ENOUGH IS CERTAINLY *NOT* WORTH YOUR TIME.

Find a girl who is open and friendly and doesn't think she's better than you IN THE BEGINNING, so you won't have to worry about knocking her off her pedistal because she won't be on one to begin with. Don't get into relationships with a girl you have to change, she should be what you want from the GET GO.

See where I'm going with this?

If you are dealing with a girl that has shown you that she needs to be neg-hit, you need to find a girl where neg-hitting isn't necessary. Simple as that. However, AFC's and a lot of people on this board take a look a woman and assume what she is like based off of how attractive she is.

DON'T DO THIS.

Yes there are hot stuck up women out there. But there are UGLY, stuck up women TOO. Personality is completely independent to looks. Some of the sweetest women I know span from 5's to 10's, and the same goes for mean women, too.

So don't not judge a girl just because of her looks. Just because she's an HB10 does not mean that she will be a snob or think she is too good for you. Just because she's an HB10 certainly does not mean that she will not be a good girl. How would YOU like it if women judged YOU based off of YOUR looks only? So don't do the same to her.

Neg-hitting is useless on girls who do not need to be neg-hit. In fact, it will only hurt you. And not all hot women need to be neg-hit. It's not like beautiful women tell you ten times a day that you're not good enough for them. It's YOU that's telling you that, so don't get it confused.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for ****y and Funny. It's a great thing, but it's used to have FUN with her. It's used because it allows the two of you to have a good time and enjoy each other, NOT to deflate her ego because she shouldn't have one to begin with.

Hopefully, at least one person will read this. I'll be happy if that's the case.

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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I've never been a fan of neg hits. If they work for some DJs that's fine, they just aren't my style. I've never had to use them since I'm not attracted to women that need to be knocked down a peg. Mind you, I truly enjoy a confident woman I don't waste time with women who would deserve a neg hit.
 

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I only use negs if the girl is a snob and acts like she's better then me, and thinks her sh!t doesn't stink. Or if she tries neg-hitting me. Fortunately, I don't run into those types that much anymore.

If a girl is very hot, HB8.8-9.5, I'll approach her like she's my equal, and not bother with the negs. If she's hotter then my average girl, I wont bother bringing her down to my level, I'll elevate myself.
 

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I think it depends how you use the neg hit. If you approach a gir who looks snobby thinking a neg hit will make her melt, it usually won't work. (It's my experience with girls up to 22, that if they look snobby, they usually are). When I already have a girl engaged in a funny conversation, usually after CF, then I would neg hit, like putting the joke on her for a moment.

I think that when she's already digging you the neg-hit can be the cherry on top of the ice-cream, but a bad opening for difficult audiences. G
 

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i'm not one to neg-hit just for the hell of it.
a chick has to get out of line in the first place before i smack her back down with a nice neghit.

and the man has a point... Why go for the chicks you have to neg hit when there's lots out there that are modest and don't require any extra neghitting?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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The neg is probably the most misunderstood concept in seduction.

a neg hit is, it is a critisism about a woman that is said to her (usually, in a funny or ****y way) to make her unable to see you as somebody she is too good for, or to help her no longer see you as a "nice guy", thus, making her feel attraction to you.
You got it partially right. It's not a criticism as much as it is a back-handed compliment. The term "neg" is misleading because there has to be a positive side in order for it to work.

Examples:

Nice nails, are they real?

Great dress! Seems all the girls are wearing it these days.

Hey there.. I just wanted to talk to the prettiest girl in the room...she is right over there but I am too nervous to approach her...can you help me think of a good pickup line?
See where this is going? You want her reaction to be "thanks...I think." instead of "who does this prick think he is?" It's more playful than it is c0cky.

Having said that, I gotta agree with the overall essence of your post. We should not elevate women to goddess levels to the point we feel we have to tear them down.
 

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Originally posted by NINJA PIMP
The neg is probably the most misunderstood concept in seduction.



You got it partially right. It's not a criticism as much as it is a back-handed compliment. The term "neg" is misleading because there has to be a positive side in order for it to work.

Examples:



See where this is going? You want her reaction to be "thanks...I think." instead of "who does this prick think he is?" It's more playful than it is c0cky.

Having said that, I gotta agree with the overall essence of your post. We should not elevate women to goddess levels to the point we feel we have to tear them down.
Very well said, good examples too.
 

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personally I have only used neg-hits like you were talking about on one person. When I just started out and was not over my oneitis. Then I got over her and have never needed them but the real definition used by Ninja, I do not know if I ever used because I think I used them before I ever heard of the concept of what a DJ was.

To the newbies out there you dont even need the neg-hits at first. Because you can tell within the first 5 to 10 seconds whether she is a stuck up or not.

and for the love of God do not put any girl on a pedestal bigger than your own.

Peace,
baseball
 

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Originally posted by Page
i'm not one to neg-hit just for the hell of it.
a chick has to get out of line in the first place before i smack her back down with a nice neghit.

and the man has a point... Why go for the chicks you have to neg hit when there's lots out there that are modest and don't require any extra neghitting?
Exactly right.

But, has anyone ever missed a good neg-hit?

I was reflecting on this bizzotch I knew a while ago...the type that thinks she's hot **** even though she's not. One day she had on the right combo of wonderbra and shirt (in reality she wasn't that blessed).

So I said, "I like your top, it looks good on you".

She says, "...Accents my boobs..."

If had even been aware of neg-hits I would have said, "Boobs? What boobs?"

Any other good stories?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I don't use neg hits. Don't see the use of them. If a woman's so hot that she has a bad attitude I'll just not waste my time on her.

Personality is very, very important to me, and I don't care how hot a woman is, if she has a sh*t attitude, I find it a huge, huge turn off.
 
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