"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Neg hits ...some textbook examples

Poosy Marauder

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"Wow, you look great, have you lost some weight"

"That top your wearing is really nice, my friend xxxx has one just like it"

"You're having the ravioli? Great, I really admire a woman who's not afraid of taking in a few extra calories"

"Your hair looks fantastic. I can't even see your roots"

These are just some quick ones off the top of my head. Can anyone post some more or critique these so I can get a better idea of how to use neg hits?

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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The second one is not as good as the rest, in my opinion.
Also, neg Hitting on a woman's weight is a good idea...most women are verry insecure about their weight. The whole idea is to approach the insecurities right?
 

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Originally posted by indiorunner:
The second one is not as good as the rest, in my opinion.
Also, neg Hitting on a woman's weight is a good idea...most women are verry insecure about their weight. The whole idea is to approach the insecurities right?
I disagree. Women HATE to be seen wearing the same thing as other women. I don't mind if a guy shows up wearing the same thing I am wearing. It just shows he has good taste!
 

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Originally posted by Poosy Marauder:

"That top your wearing is really nice, my friend xxxx has one just like it"

Maybe change friend xxxx to grandmother. ; )
 

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Some more textbook examples from others would be helpfull.

For example, I work with a blonde (who I'm deeply in lust with) who's an 8 or 9.

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I think Im seeing a pattern now... So is it more of a "Ive decided that Im going to give you a compliment, but its going to come with some cost?" type of thing?
Too many times I think Im giving a neg hit, but sometimes it comes off as being just plain negative.
 

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My impression of the psycology of the neg hit is this:

Some women think they are princesses and are used to having men falling at their feet.
You distinguish yourself by knocking them off their pedastal but the clever part is this:

You wrap the insult in a compliment, kind of like a Trojan horse, so they can't really complain about what you have just said.

It puts the 8-9-10 category women off balance and gives you the upper hand confidence wise in the interaction.

The final point is this. Most people forget the last 100 compliments they receive but remember the 1 negative thing they heard.
If she remembers your neg hit, then she remembers the interaction with you but not in a completely negative way.

Come on guys, I think this is a powerful but difficult to master tactic . Any other thoughts?
 

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Hey, I never thought about it as "knocking them" off their pedistole. I just used it b/c it would get a reaction. Good way to put it. Another userfull tool .

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A girl I know told me the other day she was at a party and there were 2 ugly girls making fools of themselves.
So I said "Really? You and who else?"

(with neg hits its also the delivery that counts - you gotta show you're not a downright a$$hole when delivering the blow)

There are others like:
"You could've been a model, if you were better looking".
 

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Here’s a textbook classic:

“Your make-up is more natural looking than usual”


Can anyone…critique these so I can get a better idea of how to use neg hits?
"Wow, you look great, have you lost some weight", "That top your wearing is really nice, my friend xxxx has one just like it", and "Your hair looks fantastic. I can't even see your roots"

Those negs all have one thing in common…you shot them up, then you shot them down. A great way to neg is to first compliment them, then immediately shoot them down in one or two sentences.

The trick is to confuse them by bringing them up while bringing them down so she neither interprets it as a compliment nor an insult. (Ex. “I like your nails, are they Lee’s?”) If you’re a master complimenter, you’ll have no problem being a master neg hitter.


“Five minutes alone I’m already on the bone”
-Johnny Blaze


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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How about this one:

"Have you done any modeling? I mean hand modelling of course"
 

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I'm not so sure about using neg hits once you're in an LTR.

I've always thought of them more as a weapon of breaking through the defences of ice princesses.

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Man! You guys are jerks!... Deal me in. Somehow I know it's right, but let me play the devil's advocate. I'm new at this so give me some idiot space. But how is it that she responds so well to negative hits? Who could treat a sweet girl like that? I mean c'mon..., "my grandmother"? Somehow I don't think I could score with this! Someone fill me in...
 

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Well in my opinion, one of the many ways women are the opposite of men is in the way they derive attention. It's pretty obvious most men want positive attention right off the bat and hate getting neg hitted. Most women would rather pay attention to the guy who gives her negative attention because he stands out from all the other suckers that are just kissing her ass. Most women (especially those that let their looks carry them) are insecure and need someone to lead them and take control. With neg hits you show you are a leader and not a follower, IMHO.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Exactly HC, you've got to show them you are you aren't afraid to say what's on your mind. By using neg hitting it works wonders. The girl will be trying to figure you out, because you're sending them on an emotional roller coaster and they love that stuff. The better looking the girl, the better is works. I just recently started using these techniques and they work almost flawlessly.

"If your rap is strong it can't go wrong."

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neg hits work wicked when your teasing a girl.like making fun of her hair make-up etc.teasing and neg hits are a deadly combo!
 

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if your lucky enough to be getting laid at the time and there not acting wild enough get off them and tell them they suck!trust me the next lay will be one you'll never forget!i'm still licking my wounds months later!all girls wanna be a rocking ride!its nasty.but it works.
 

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quite bold!but you got to do what you got to do!also neg hits and sex rock....actually neg hits just rule all together.hahah!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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