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is it just me...or do neg hits and push-pull techniques work well on shy girls too? i mean, they say not to, cuz they already got low esteem or whatever, but I've used em on a good handful of shy girls and got pretty good results! Anybody agree with me?
 

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theres a difference between a shy girl and an insecure girl. insecure girls don't take all too well to neg hits, while a shy girl can be secure and take a joke.
 

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WC2 said:
theres a difference between a shy girl and an insecure girl. insecure girls don't take all too well to neg hits, while a shy girl can be secure and take a joke.
i don't know, a couple of them seemed pretty insecure to me.
 

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You guys need to learn why negs are used in the first place.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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negs are used to take girls off their pedestal, to remind them that they're just an average girl and you're the ****. I don't see it as being necessary too often with shy/insecure girls.
 

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negs are used to take girls off their pedestal, to remind them that they're just an average girl and you're the ****. I don't see it as being necessary too often with shy/insecure girls.
of course they're not necessary but they help. and I know what a neg hit is...I just wanted francisco to elaborate
 

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I think it works great on shy girls who are secure, The one chick I've been posting about takes it really well, she thinks Im being mean sometimes but I know she likes it cuz she brings it up sometimes.

Example: She wears this headband sometimes and Ill jokingly say "Hey im really digigng your karate kid look today" And shell just smile and laugh or something, I havent said it in a while but she came up to me and was like "hey look im wearing the karate kid headband!"

As long as you dont say anything that'll make her extremly uncomfortable your chill.
 

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of course they're not necessary but they help. and I know what a neg hit is...I just wanted francisco to elaborate
How in the world would negging a shy or insecure girl help?
 

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PumpingIron13 said:
I think it works great on shy girls who are secure, The one chick I've been posting about takes it really well, she thinks Im being mean sometimes but I know she likes it cuz she brings it up sometimes.

Example: She wears this headband sometimes and Ill jokingly say "Hey im really digigng your karate kid look today" And shell just smile and laugh or something, I havent said it in a while but she came up to me and was like "hey look im wearing the karate kid headband!"

As long as you dont say anything that'll make her extremly uncomfortable your chill.
That wasn't a neg hit.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
How in the world would negging a shy or insecure girl help?
I didn't say neggin a insecure girl would help. but shy girls dig it too. Like this website always says, only neg stuck up girls or whatever to take em down a notch. Well, I say that you can neg a shy girl (if you do it right i.e. gently) and it has the same push pull effect that it does on the outgoing look at me type females.
 

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thanks coach, you werent there. I said it like i was makin fun of her about it and she defended herself jokingly. Im tired of egos around here all the time. Why dont you say something constructiver to help the dude who started the thread
 

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Oops, my mistake. I keep forgetting why they segregate the High Schoolers for a reason. Give it ten years or so, maybe you'll understand by then.
 

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Oops, my mistake. I keep forgetting why they segregate the High Schoolers for a reason. Give it ten years or so, maybe you'll understand by then.
ur 38 and still posting in the high school section? uh....
 

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Yea dude maybe when im 38 I wont neg about stupid things like headbands, but for now it works.
 

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ur 38 and still posting in the high school section? uh....
Yeah, my GPS flaked out and sent me into AFC land. I'm out.
 

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Girls are shy in the first place because they are insecure. They don't speak because they are scared of the reaction they may get, so negs aren't always a good idea.

BUT, theres a difference between being shy and just plain not interested. Thats why negs will work to open up a once seemingly shy girl. How to tell the difference? See how she talks to other people.
 

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