"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Neg Hits... Do they work?

Do 'Neg Hits' work for you and how old are you.

  • YES - Under 18 (17 Years old and younger)

    Votes: 9 11.0%
  • YES - (18 - 25)

    Votes: 41 50.0%
  • YES - (26 - 32)

    Votes: 10 12.2%
  • YES - (33 - 39)

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • YES - 40 and above

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • NO - Under 18 (17 Years old and younger)

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • NO - (18 - 25)

    Votes: 10 12.2%
  • NO - (26 - 32)

    Votes: 3 3.7%
  • NO - (33 - 39)

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • NO - 40 and above

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • Total voters
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JezDuffield

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Neg Hits do not work unfortunately, but what does work is pushing two of your fingers into a hot babes vagina, then move them around inside, if you do this you will excite the hot babes everytime and they will happily let you fu-ck them, this is what you should do as quickly as possible. :mad:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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JezDuffield said:
Neg Hits do not work unfortunately, but what does work is pushing two of your fingers into a hot babes vagina, then move them around inside, if you do this you will excite the hot babes everytime and they will happily let you fu-ck them, this is what you should do as quickly as possible. :mad:
Fantabulous idea! Unfortunately, most (not all) of the girls I talk to are in fact, NOT prostitutes, and from my experience, your advice is slightly less effective on those who are not prostitutes. However, the next girl that I talk to how IS a prostitute, I will be sure to implement your theory, forthwith.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Most of us heard of them, many profess to use them; but are they really successful and does it depend on your age?

By successful I mean did you get an immediate, positive, interest raising response from the woman. Giving a neg hit for retaliation does not count.

Vote YES in your appropriate age group if you have been successful MORE THAN HALF (+50%) OF THE TIME.

Vote NO in your appropriate age group if you choose not to use neg hits or if you are not usually successful in using them (-50%).
Why ask for advice when you think that everyone who posts on here are fakes, doesn't that defeat the purpose, you are a very sad case. :cuss:
 

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Princess Jo said:
Why ask for advice when you think that everyone who posts on here are fakes, doesn't that defeat the purpose, you are a very sad case. :cuss:
Honey, a word of advice; you don't know me, don't pretend that you do.

Will someone close the fvcking screen door, someone has let in another annoying gnat. :rolleyes:
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Honey, a word of advice; you don't know me, don't pretend that you do.

Will someone close the fvcking screen door, someone has let in another annoying gnat. :rolleyes:
From what I have read it seems like you were to one who attacked her first, if you don't like her, think its a guy, troll, etc, it is best to ignore the posts, attacking them won't get you anywhere at all. :up:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Atten-hut, maggots!!!

Listen kiddos, you noobs got this all wrong. Your entire starting frame is wrong here.

The goal is NOT necessarily "negging!" That's not even the proper question...

LOOK, the goal is calibrating the GAP in value between YOU and HER, so that yours is slightly above hers. Higher because she wants something superior, but not so high to appear unattainable.

- NOW, if you happen to start OFF at this level, then negging is not even necessary.

- If you start out lower, you need to EITHER DHV or neg her down.

- If you start out too high, you need to boost her LSE a bit, accordingly.

So, there ya go. You NEED to CALIBRATE. You may or may not need to NEG.
 

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JezDuffield said:
From what I have read it seems like you were to one who attacked her first, if you don't like her, think its a guy, troll, etc, it is best to ignore the posts, attacking them won't get you anywhere at all. :up:
Even though you're absolutely wrong I'll let it slide because you're new to the site and your approach wasn't bad.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Even though you're absolutely wrong I'll let it slide because you're new to the site and your approach wasn't bad.
I hope you cast your vote on my new trolls percentage thread. :up:
 

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Exactly what I was saying earlier - Negs are a pathetic attempt to bring a HB down a level or two.

The mere act of using negs sub-communicates that you are of lower value than her. It's obvious to pretty much everyone, including your target.

Guys that have thier **** together don't need to bring her down a level or two, because they are already above her.

Again, this stuff might work on young, drunken club girls, but not on mature (mentally and emotionally, not age wise) women who have their **** together.

Try negging a woman of substance, and you'll blow yourself out, guaranteed.

Thier are far better ways to DHV than using negs.

wayword said:
Listen kiddos, you noobs got this all wrong. Your entire starting frame is wrong here.

The goal is NOT necessarily "negging!" That's not even the proper question...

LOOK, the goal is calibrating the GAP in value between YOU and HER, so that yours is slightly above hers. Higher because she wants something superior, but not so high to appear unattainable.

- NOW, if you happen to start OFF at this level, then negging is not even necessary.

- If you start out lower, you need to EITHER DHV or neg her down.

- If you start out too high, you need to boost her LSE a bit, accordingly.

So, there ya go. You NEED to CALIBRATE. You may or may not need to NEG.
 

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SeldomSeen said:
I see what Derek is saying by the "I have to knock you down a bit to get on your level" statement he makes and I personally wouldnt use negs for that manner BUT I do like to use playful banter in conversation and to me that just shows that you arent too serious and keeping things light. Its not a neg to bring her down but a poke fun at her moment to keep let her know you arent a stiff shirt or weasel.
Nothing wrong with playful teasing, which is completely different than "negging"
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Derek Flint said:
Exactly what I was saying earlier - Negs are a pathetic attempt to bring a HB down a level or two.

The mere act of using negs sub-communicates that you are of lower value than her. It's obvious to pretty much everyone, including your target.

Guys that have thier **** together don't need to bring her down a level or two, because they are already above her.

Again, this stuff might work on young, drunken club girls, but not on mature (mentally and emotionally, not age wise) women who have their **** together.

Try negging a woman of substance, and you'll blow yourself out, guaranteed.

Thier are far better ways to DHV than using negs.
No it isn't, and if you bothered to read his post you would find that he advocates negging.

If you start out lower, you need to EITHER DHV or neg her down.
See?

He does it again here...
You may or may not need to NEG.
 
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I think the question shouldn't be if negs work. There is tape recordings, lair groups, even video recordings of negs working and being used successfully.

I think a better question would be: Does the perceptial filter that most men view 'negs' through set a negative frame for the interaction? Which begs the question of should we start using disqualifier or some other term to succeed 'neg' since it seems to generate so much confusion and misunderstanding.

The good news is all the guys roaming around acting weird really lower the bar for me to open a conversation. LOL.
 

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Derek Flint said:
Nothing wrong with playful teasing, which is completely different than "negging"
I agree.
 

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Has anyone else looked at the poll statistics? Anyone have a comment on the glaring dispersion of the votes?
 

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I can garentee that some are lieing or have never tried using a neg hit and are KBJ.

Why?

Because as i said earlier....most people on here dont even know HOW to use a neg let alone have it succeed.


Sarge On!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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LOL - just the fact that there is so much disagreement and nitpicking over what is a neg, do they work, etc... is proof that some of you are overgaming.

PU is not that complicated. In fact, it's quite easy once you get rid of all that masf bullsh!t out of your head.

BTW, I've been in the "community" for over 10 years, so I'm well aware of what negs are, and I have plenty of field experience.

I've been out in the field gaming HB's before some of you were even born, and I still manage to pull HB's 20 years younger than myself.

Again, negs might work on some immature, LSE drunken club chick.

But try negging a educated HB with a good career, who has her sh!t together.

Think that'll "DHV"? No. It will make you look like an immature try-hard though.

Same with that "peacocking" crap.
 

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Tomatoes said:
Neg hits DO work... Problem is most people get a NEG and an INSULT mixed up so unless you know what your doing I advise against negs.
I think that where alot of the problem is. I keep seeing post about guys giving "negs" and they end up insulting the girl over and over again.
 

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Freddy1 said:
I think that where alot of the problem is. I keep seeing post about guys giving "negs" and they end up insulting the girl over and over again.
You're right, it's much easier for some guys to insult a girl. Plus it's a cheap way to boost their ego. Finally, they can just say that she was a b1tch when she doesn't fall head over heels for him. Again, this is about guys who give insults instead of real neg-hits.
I'll add again that it's interesting to see the age range of the guys who believe that they work.
 

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Hey my Good Friend! I really appreciate your posts. You know I enjoy reading them and find them tremendously informative. Its trusted information from a relaibale source.
 

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Derek Flint said:
Imagine trying to "neg" Michael Jordan on his BB playing skills.
No I won't. Although he is muscular and tall.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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